Anthony Ervin: The Rebel Olympian on Chasing Water, Finding Meaning in Gold & The Search For Authenticity
The Rich Roll Podcast11 Heinä 2016

Anthony Ervin: The Rebel Olympian on Chasing Water, Finding Meaning in Gold & The Search For Authenticity

Imagine winning an Olympic gold medal in swimming at age 19 at the 2000 Sydney Olympics. A feat never-before achieved by a swimmer of African-American descent, the frenzied media swarms. The only problem? You’re only half-black. You definitely don’t look black. And you know nothing about what it’s like to be part of the black experience. The unrelenting crush of public expectation to fulfill a role at odds with your private sense of self becomes so intense, you retreat from your Olympic experience not with any lasting sense of happiness, satisfaction and pride, but rather a numb confusion. This isn’t anything like I thought it would be… Over time, the confusion metastasizes into disillusionment. And it’s not long before depression sets in. Lost and lacking the tools to cope, life begins to pivot away from the dreaded black line at the bottom of the pool and towards a dreadlocked blur of rock ‘n roll, boozy, drug-fueled binges, rampant womanizing, cigarette haze, and death-defying motorcycle crashes. Nonetheless, over the next three years you continue to do the one thing you know how to do: swim. Not only do you continue to win, in 2001 you’re crowned the world champion in two events. But these results only magnify what is quickly becoming a profound crisis of identity. Who am I? Why am I doing this? What does it all mean? The answers continue to elude you until you find yourself so despondent, so desperate for relief, that you down a handful of tranquilizers. But the suicide attempt fails, fueling a sense of invincibility that only hastens the onset of an even more profound darkness. So, at the young age of 22, at the peak of his abilities, Anthony Ervin does what he has to — he walks away from the thing he used to love. The thing that gave him everything. The thing that made him a star. The thing that betrayed it’s promise of making him whole. In a Hail Mary attempt to discover and re-create his life, Anthony travels the world. He meditates at a Buddhist temple. He studies philosophy with a Sufi mystic. He reclaims his body with tattoos. He enrolls in graduate school but spends summers in Brooklyn, where he immerses himself in books, writes poetry, and even occasionally cross-dresses at parties. The denouement? Hawking his Olympic gold medal on eBay and donating the proceeds to the UNICEF tsunami relief fund. The only thing Anthony Ervin didn’t do during this time? Swim. Not one stroke. The next eight years marked a complete divorce from anything and everything swimming. In fact, not one of Anthony’s new friends during this time had any idea he was even an athlete, let alone an Olympic champion. He was just another tattooed, guitar-playing Brooklynite seeking answers to the Universe in music, meditation, books and partying. But with funds dwindling, Anthony offhandedly takes a gig teaching New York kids how to swim. The experience of service begins to erode his jaded shell and ignites an unexpected spark of appreciation for his former life. A new sense of self worth begins to emerge, informing the why in Anthony’s quest for spiritual self-actualization. Suddenly, love for the sport he so thoroughly placed in his rearview begins to rekindle. In 2011, Anthony returns to the water. And almost overnight, the impossible occurs. Twelve years after Sydney, Anthony qualifies for the 2012 London Olympics — his second U.S. Olympic team. Despite his 31 years of age (ancient in the world of swi...

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Beyond 10% Happier: Dan Harris On Meditation As A Superpower, Transforming Anxiety, & Finding Peace In Uncertain Times

Beyond 10% Happier: Dan Harris On Meditation As A Superpower, Transforming Anxiety, & Finding Peace In Uncertain Times

Dan Harris is the former ABC News anchor whose on-air panic attack catalyzed his transformation from skeptical journalist to meditation ambassador.   This conversation explores Dan’s journey with meditation—from stress management tool to profound inquiry into consciousness and uncertainty. We discuss his practice evolving far beyond his bestselling book and podcast “10% Happier,” his transformative encounters with the Dalai Lama, and how Buddhist principles provided equanimity during his challenging business separation.   Dan reveals how meditation builds emotional resilience—teaching us to observe our thoughts rather than being owned by them. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up  Today’s Sponsors: Seed: Use code RICHROLL25 for 25% OFF your first order 👉seed.com/RichRoll           Go Brewing: Use the code Rich Roll for 15% OFF 👉gobrewing.com      Airbnb: Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much at 👉 airbnb.com/host                                                                             CALM: Get 40% off a Calm Premium subscription 👉 calm.com/richroll Birch Living: For 20% OFF sitewide👉BirchLiving.com/richroll L-Nutra: Get 15% OFF plus a FREE bonus gift 👉 prolonlife.com/richroll Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors   Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

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Phil Stutz & Elise Loehnen Share Tools For Inner Well-being, How To Embrace Pain, Uncertainty & Constant Work As Divine Invitations, & Why Everything You’re Avoiding Will Transform Your Life

Phil Stutz & Elise Loehnen Share Tools For Inner Well-being, How To Embrace Pain, Uncertainty & Constant Work As Divine Invitations, & Why Everything You’re Avoiding Will Transform Your Life

Phil Stutz is the legendary psychiatrist, author, and protagonist in the Netflix documentary “Stutz.” Alongside co-author and writer Elise Loehnen, they explore their new book “True & False Magic.”   This conversation delves into “Part X”—the destructive force within us all—along with Universe 1 vs. Universe 2 thinking, and how pain, uncertainty, and constant work serve as unavoidable portals to growth. Together, they present actionable tools and a profound spiritual framework for living fully.   Along the way, Phil illustrates concepts with hand-drawn diagrams, while Elise translates these insights into everyday practice.    Their complementary wisdom offers a rare treasure—an invitation to a more expansive way of being. Enjoy!   Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up   Today’s Sponsors: iFit: Use the code RICHROLL to get 10% off any purchase of $999+ 👉NordicTrack.com/richroll On: High-performance shoes & apparel crafted for comfort and style 👉on.com/richroll  Bon Charge: Get 15% OFF all my favorite wellness products w/ code RICHROLL 👉 boncharge.com                  AG1: Get a FREE bottle of Vitamin D3+K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs 👉drinkAG1.com/richroll         Squarespace: Use the code RichRoll to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain 👉Squarespace.com/RichRoll   BetterHelp: Get 10% OFF the first month👉BetterHelp.com/richroll                            Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors   Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

14 Huhti 1h 29min

Power, Property, & Prestige: Kurt Sutter & Katey Sagal Share The Unfiltered Truth About Marriage, Recovery, Success Addiction & The Path Back To Purpose

Power, Property, & Prestige: Kurt Sutter & Katey Sagal Share The Unfiltered Truth About Marriage, Recovery, Success Addiction & The Path Back To Purpose

Kurt Sutter and Katey Sagal are the Hollywood power couple behind “Sons of Anarchy,” numerous iconic performances, and hosts of the podcast “PIE.”   This conversation strips bare the intoxicating trap of fame, the parallel paths that led them both to sobriety at 31, and the brutal honesty required to save their relationship when “money, property, and prestige” threatened everything.   Kurt’s evolution from Hollywood’s combative bad boy to spiritual seeker alongside Katey’s unflinching wisdom on intimacy creates a masterclass in reinvention.    They’re authentic. They’re vulnerable. Their journey might change how you think about success. Enjoy!   Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up  Today’s Sponsors: Momentous: 20% OFF all of my favorite products  👉livemomentous.com/richroll  Roka: Unlock 20% OFF your order with code RICHROLL 👉ROKA.com/RICHROLL Pique: Get up to 20% OFF plus a FREE rechargeable frother and glass beaker with your first purchase 👉piquelife.com/richroll OneSkin: Get started today with 15% off using code RICHROLL at oneskin.co  LMNT: Get a free LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase 👉 drinkLMNT.com/richroll     Bragg: Get 20% OFF your first order with code RICHROLL👉 Bragg.com                                    IQBAR: Get 20% OFF all IQBAR products plus FREE shipping. Just text RICHROLL to sixty-four thousand. Message and data rates may apply.             Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors   Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

10 Huhti 2h 3min

Let Them Theory: Mel Robbins On Reclaiming Your Power, Finding Freedom In Letting Go & The Simple Tool That's Transforming Millions of Lives

Let Them Theory: Mel Robbins On Reclaiming Your Power, Finding Freedom In Letting Go & The Simple Tool That's Transforming Millions of Lives

Mel Robbins is a celebrated podcast host, #1 New York Times bestselling author, and one of the most sought-after experts in mindset and behavior change.   This conversation explores the paradox at the heart of human suffering—that we exhaust ourselves trying to control the uncontrollable. Mel’s counterintuitive “Let Them Theory” offers a deceptively simple yet profound antidote to this universal struggle, challenging us to disabuse ourselves of the illusion of control and redirect our energy toward what truly matters.   She deftly unpacks how relinquishing the compulsion to manage others ultimately grants us the equanimity we’ve all been seeking.   Mel is a beacon—and this conversation is a path to personal liberation. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors: Bon Charge: Get 15% OFF all my favorite wellness products w/ code RICHROLL 👉 boncharge.com                                                                                                                           Squarespace: Use the code RichRoll to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain 👉Squarespace.com/RichRoll                                                                                                       Airbnb: Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much at 👉 airbnb.com/host  AG1: Get a FREE bottle of Vitamin D3+K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs 👉www.drinkAG1.com/richroll            Go Brewing: Use the code Rich Roll for 15% OFF 👉gobrewing.com           Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors   Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

7 Huhti 1h 50min

You Are Already Enough: Maria Shriver On Finding Your Voice, Healing After Heartbreak, Brain Health Advocacy, & The Power Of Self-Acceptance

You Are Already Enough: Maria Shriver On Finding Your Voice, Healing After Heartbreak, Brain Health Advocacy, & The Power Of Self-Acceptance

Maria Shriver is a renowned journalist, Kennedy family scion, and award-winning advocate for women's brain health. This conversation explores the parasocial relationship between public figure and audience as Maria shares her authentic journey of self-discovery through poetry. We discuss her upbringing in America's political "royalty," the transactional nature of achievement-based love, finding wholeness after heartbreak, and her groundbreaking work in Alzheimer's research. She shares profound insights on disentangling our true selves from predetermined narratives and the magnanimous act of forgiveness. Maria’s courage is undeniable. This conversation might just change how you see yourself. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors: Momentous: 20% OFF all of my favorite products 👉livemomentous.com/richroll Go Brewing: Use the code Rich Roll for 15% OFF 👉gobrewing.com BetterHelp: Get 10% OFF the first month 👉BetterHelp.com/richroll. Prolon/L-Nutra: Get 15% OFF plus a FREE bonus gift 👉prolonlife.com/richroll Bon Charge: Get 15% OFF all my favorite wellness products w/ code RICHROLL 👉boncharge.com Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

31 Maalis 1h 49min

ROLL ON 2025 So Far: Navigating Uncertainty, Getting Unstuck, Elmo, Psychedelics, ‘Adolescence’ & More

ROLL ON 2025 So Far: Navigating Uncertainty, Getting Unstuck, Elmo, Psychedelics, ‘Adolescence’ & More

Roll On is back baby! Today Rich and Adam Skolnick catch up on the decade that is 2025. On tap is SXSW, Elmo, psychedelics, the LA fires, and practical strategies for navigating the turbulence of our current moment. They also go deep on the Netflix hit “Adolescence” and its many important themes, including the impact of social media on teenagers and the crisis of young men. Along the way, they answer listener questions and more. Rejoice! Show notes + MORE  Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up   Today’s Sponsors: Seed: Use code RICHROLL25 for 25% OFF your first order 👉seed.com/RichRoll Go Brewing: Use the code Rich Roll for 15% OFF 👉gobrewing.com Pique: Get up to 20% OFF plus a FREE rechargeable frother and glass beaker with your first purchase 👉piquelife.com/richroll Roka: Unlock 20% OFF your order with code RICHROLL 👉ROKA.com/RICHROLL Bragg: Use code RICHROLL for 20% off your first order 👉Bragg.com Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

27 Maalis 1h 58min

The Explorer's Gene: Alex Hutchinson On Humanity’s Drive To Seek The Unknown, The Science Of Uncertainty, & Why Effort Creates Meaning

The Explorer's Gene: Alex Hutchinson On Humanity’s Drive To Seek The Unknown, The Science Of Uncertainty, & Why Effort Creates Meaning

Alex Hutchinson is a National Magazine Award-winning journalist, Cambridge-trained physicist, and bestselling author of “Endure” and “The Explorer’s Gene.” This conversation explores Alex’s transcendent perspective on our primordial drive to seek the unknown. We unpack his fascinating evolution from elite runner and NSA researcher to becoming the voice on endurance science, and now, the cartographer of humanity’s exploratory impulse. We dive into the genetic and neurological drivers of uncertainty-seeking, the importance of embracing difficulty, the role of play, and finding meaning through effort in adventure and everyday life. Note: In celebration of Alex’s appearance on the podcast, we’re giving away five signed copies of his transformative book. Subscribe to the newsletter at richroll.com/subscribe for a chance to win. Alex’s work doesn’t merely inform—it transforms. This dialogue is an expedition worth taking. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE  Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up   Today’s Sponsors: AG1: Get a FREE bottle of Vitamin D3+K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs 👉drinkAG1.com/richroll This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp: Get 10% OFF the first month👉BetterHelp.com/richroll   Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

24 Maalis 2h 20min

Introducing Ask Lisa: The Psychology of Parenting: "Should I Talk with My Teens About My Own Mental Health Challenges?"

Introducing Ask Lisa: The Psychology of Parenting: "Should I Talk with My Teens About My Own Mental Health Challenges?"

Today I’m sharing an episode of Ask Lisa: The Psychology of Parenting hosted by Dr. Lisa Damour and Reena. In this episode, Dr. Lisa Damour and Reena explore the topic of "Should I Talk with My Teens About My Own Mental Health Challenges?" Subscribe to Ask Lisa: The Psychology of Parenting on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

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