Dr. Melanie Joy on Going Beyond Carnism: Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs and Wear Cows

Dr. Melanie Joy on Going Beyond Carnism: Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs and Wear Cows

Why do we love dogs, but eat cows? Cooking up your golden retriever would be an unthinkable abomination. But barbecued beef? That's about as normal as it gets. It's just the way things are. But why? The logic and social mechanisms behind why we eat some animals and not others is a behavioral inconsistency unexamined to the point of absurdity — both psychologically complex and strange — very strange indeed. Many guests on this podcast have elaborated on why we shouldn't eat meat. This week I sit down with Melanie Joy, Ph.D, Ed.M to explain why we do eat meat. An idea she coined carnism, Dr. Joy's work centers around the psychology of eating meat, what is known as the “meat paradox” – our irrational, inconsistent and species specific attitudes toward various animals – why we express affection towards certain animals while eating others – and the cognitive dissonance this entails. A Harvard-educated social psychologist, Dr. Joy is a celebrated speaker, organizational consultant, author of the award-winning book, Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs, and Wear Cows*, and eighth recipient of the Institute of Jainology's Ahimsa Award, which was previously awarded to Nelson Mandela and the Dalai Lama. Her work has been featured by numerous national and international media outlets, including the BBC, NPR, and the New York Times. And she is the founder of the non-profit Beyond Carnism, which challenges dominant ideologies around food choice and systems and promotes a more mindful approach to our consumer choices. I came across Dr. Joy’s work via her popular TEDx Talk, Toward Rational, Authentic Food Choices — a very intelligent and cogent exploration of our normative cultural behaviors and attitudes around the food we eat and why — and have wanted to get her on the podcast ever since. I only had a tight hour with Dr. Joy, so this is a very focused discourse on speciesism and the psychological defense mechanisms we employ to rationalize our food choices. It's a conversation about the psychology of social change, and it's about how to employ psychologically optimal strategies in the advocacy of positive cultural change. Specific topics explored include: * the concept of carnism * psychological defense mechanisms to eating animals * speciesism * carnistic justifications and “humane meat” * the rise of meat & dairy alternatives * the psychology of social change * the impact of the locavore movement * masculinity of meat & gender stereotypes * how to effectively advocate for veganism Whip smart, Dr. Joy peels back the fallacious facade of logic and exposes the denial that surrounds these cultural mores with keen intellect and grace. Irrespective of your dietary proclivities, my hope is that this provocative conversation will challenge assumptions and inspire you to make more informed consumer choices that more adeptly align with your core values as an empathetic and compassionate citizen. It was a pleasure to talk with Dr. Joy and I sincerely hope you enjoy the exchange. Peace + Plants, Rich

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Tom Holland Is More Than Spider-Man: On Living Alcohol-Free, Acting With Authenticity, & Launching A Second Career

Tom Holland Is More Than Spider-Man: On Living Alcohol-Free, Acting With Authenticity, & Launching A Second Career

Tom Holland is the star of Spider-Man, a nascent entrepreneur, and one of Hollywood’s most grounded young actors. This conversation traverses the nexus of fame, personal growth, and Tom’s journey toward sobriety, which catalyzed his foray into the non-alcoholic beverage industry. We explore his evolution from child actor to global superstar, his therapeutic relationship with golf, and how he’s remained attuned to his authentic self amidst Hollywood’s gilded chaos. Tom candidly reflects on navigating the intricacies of the Marvel Cinematic Universe and his recent return to the verité of Shakespearean theatre. Tom’s infectious enthusiasm is palpable. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors:  Bon Charge: Use code RICHROLL to save 15% OFF 👉boncharge.com AG1: Get a FREE bottle of Vitamin D3+K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs 👉drinkAG1.com/richroll Momentous: 20% OFF all of my favorite products  👉livemomentous.com/richroll Birch: For 25% off ALL mattresses and 2 free eco-rest pillows 👉BirchLiving.com/richroll On: High-performance shoes & apparel crafted for comfort and style 👉on.com/richroll Peak Design: Get 20% OFF thoughtfully crafted carry solutions 👉PeakDesign.com/RICHROLL. Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

17 Loka 20241h 44min

Life After Free Solo: Alex Honnold On Risk Post Kids, Transcending Fear, Parenting, The Devil’s Climb, & More

Life After Free Solo: Alex Honnold On Risk Post Kids, Transcending Fear, Parenting, The Devil’s Climb, & More

Alex Honnold is a global climbing icon, founder of the Honnold Foundation, and the protagonist in the Oscar-winning documentary “Free Solo.” This conversation explores the confluence of extreme athleticism and fatherhood, delving into Alex’s evolving risk calculus and approach to adventure. We discuss Alex’s recent 2,600-mile expedition to Alaska’s Devil’s Thumb, environmental activism, his passion for climbing, embracing uncertainty, and many other topics. His dry wit shines as he answers listener questions: everything from the ethics of risk-taking to late-night cookie binges.  Alex is someone I deeply admire, and this conversation is both edifying and entertaining. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors:  Eight Sleep: Use code RICHROLL to get $350 OFF Pod 4 Ultra👉eightsleep.com/richroll LMNT: Get a FREE Sample Pack with any drink mix purchase👉drinkLMNT.com/RICHROLL Go Brewing: use the code Rich Roll for 15% OFF  👉gobrewing.com Nordic Track: Transform your home fitness space with NordicTrack’s lineup of treadmills, bikes, rowers, and more 👉NordicTrack.com Whoop: Get a FREE one month trial 👉join.whoop.com/roll Waking Up: Get a FREE month, plus $30 OFF  👉wakingup.com/RICHROLL Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

14 Loka 20241h 43min

Introducing Mentor Buffet: Zach Braff—Be Yourself Until Somebody Gives You a Chance

Introducing Mentor Buffet: Zach Braff—Be Yourself Until Somebody Gives You a Chance

Today I’m sharing an episode of Mentor Buffet—a new podcast hosted by Alexi Pappas, the Olympian-author-filmmaker. Subscribe on Spotify and Apple Podcasts Watch on YouTube In each episode, Alexi goes deep with brilliant changemakers to learn about the mentors who made the biggest difference in their lives and set them on their path. In this episode, Zach Braff talks with Alexi about his relationship with mentor Bill Lawrence, the creator of Scrubs and Ted Lasso. Bill was the first person to give Zach his big Hollywood break, casting him as the lead in Scrubs as the iconic J.D. Dorian. They also discuss the importance of being yourself, what Zach learned from making his debut feature film Garden State, the value of gratitude, and how to avoid shin splints. Subscribe to Mentor Buffet for new episodes every Thursday, available everywhere you listen to podcasts. Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

10 Loka 20241h 11min

Never Play It Safe: Chase Jarvis On Risk, Creativity, & 7 Tools To Build The Life You Want

Never Play It Safe: Chase Jarvis On Risk, Creativity, & 7 Tools To Build The Life You Want

Chase Jarvis is a renowned photographer, creative entrepreneur, and author of the new book “Never Play It Safe.” This conversation surveys Chase’s perspective on creativity and personal growth, emphasizing risk over safety. We discuss his journey from traditional career paths to creative pioneer and CreativeLive founder, reframing failure, embracing uncertainty, finding play in everyday life, and more. He incisively understands the creative process, offering practical tools for freeing one’s potential. Chase is a wellspring of wisdom and inspiration. This conversation is ideal for anyone seeking to live boldly and creatively. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors:  Peak: Get 20% OFF thoughtfully crafted carry solutions 👉PeakDesign.com/RICHROLL. On: High-performance shoes & apparel crafted for comfort and style 👉on.com/richroll AG1: Get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs 👉drinkAG1.com/richroll Squarespace: Use the offer code RichRoll to save 10% off your first purchase  👉Squarespace.com/RichRoll This episode is brought to you by Better Help: Listeners get 10% off their first month 👉BetterHelp.com/RICHROLL Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

7 Loka 20242h 13min

ROLL ON: Alt Media, Streaming Rec’s, AMA, & The Truth About Transformation

ROLL ON: Alt Media, Streaming Rec’s, AMA, & The Truth About Transformation

Adam and I are back on the mics for another rollicking “Roll On”—ready to dissect the kaleidoscope of experiences that have colored our recent existence! We free dive into Adam’s aquatic adventures with Zuma, the Shohei Ohtani mania, my transformative Olympic journey in Paris, my unexpected connections to Netflix’s “Monsters,” streaming gems that caught our eye, and the compelling story of “Maya and the Wave.” Plus, we wade into media controversies, ponder the enigma of personal change, and more. Time to catch up, folks! Tune in for this unvarnished exploration of life’s vicissitudes. Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors:  Seed: Use code RICHROLL25 for 25% OFF your first order 👉seed.com/RichRoll Whoop: Get a FREE one month trial 👉join.whoop.com/roll On: High-performance shoes & apparel crafted for comfort and style 👉on.com/richroll Roka: Unlock 20% OFF your order with code RICHROLL  👉ROKA.com/RICHROLL Go Brewing: use the code Rich Roll for 15% OFF  👉gobrewing.com Squarespace: Use the offer code RichRoll to save 10% off your first purchase  👉Squarespace.com/RichRoll Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

3 Loka 20241h 59min

The 5 Pillars of Fulfilling Aging: Outdoor Adventurer Caroline Paul On Chasing Risk After 60, & Why Age Is Just A Mindset

The 5 Pillars of Fulfilling Aging: Outdoor Adventurer Caroline Paul On Chasing Risk After 60, & Why Age Is Just A Mindset

Caroline Paul, a bestselling author, ex-firefighter, and adventurer, is here with her latest book “Tough Broad,” which explores how nature redefines aging. This conversation explores the insidious cultural messaging about aging, especially for women, and how nature supports the five pillars of healthy longevity: community, novelty, purpose, health, and a positive mindset about aging itself.   Caroline shares exhilarating stories of women defying expectations—from septuagenarian boogie boarders to a BASE-jumping grandmother—and recounts her wing-walking experience, demonstrating the transformative power of awe in later life. This exchange is a call to adventure and awe to anyone interested in embracing age with wonder and purpose. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors:  AG1: Get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs 👉drinkAG1.com/richroll LMNT: Get a FREE Sample Pack with any drink mix purchase 👉drinkLMNT.com/RICHROLL On: High-performance shoes & apparel crafted for comfort and style 👉on.com/richroll Waking Up: Get a FREE month, plus $30 OFF  👉wakingup.com/RICHROLL Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

30 Syys 20242h 1min

The How of Happiness: Psychologist Sonja Lyubomirsky On Connection, Gratitude, Kindness, MDMA, & Other Tools For Greater Joy

The How of Happiness: Psychologist Sonja Lyubomirsky On Connection, Gratitude, Kindness, MDMA, & Other Tools For Greater Joy

Dr. Sonja Lyubomirsky is a pioneering happiness researcher, bestselling author, and Distinguished Professor of Psychology at UC Riverside. This conversation explores the cutting-edge science of happiness, debunking common myths and uncovering evidence-based strategies for a more fulfilling life. We discuss her groundbreaking research on social connection, gratitude, and the surprising impact of psychedelics on well-being. Sonja’s work is transformative. This conversation challenges conventional wisdom about happiness and offers practical insights for living a more satisfying life. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors:  Bon Charge: Use code RICHROLL to save 15% OFF 👉boncharge.com  Squarespace: Use the offer code RichRoll to save 10% off  👉Squarespace.com/RichRoll  Peak Design: Get 20% OFF sleek carry solutions 👉PeakDesign.com/RICHROLL Seed: Use code RICHROLL25 for 25% OFF your first order 👉seed.com/RichRoll  This episode is brought to you by Better Help: Get 10% off your first month 👉 BetterHelp.com/RICHROLL Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

23 Syys 20241h 53min

Dispatches From The Death Zone: Adrian Ballinger On Risk, Reward, & Guiding Earth’s Biggest Mountains

Dispatches From The Death Zone: Adrian Ballinger On Risk, Reward, & Guiding Earth’s Biggest Mountains

Adrian Ballinger is an elite mountaineer, a 9-time Everest summiteer, and the founder of Alpenglow Expeditions. This conversation delves into Adrian’s Everest ascents, his “Rapid Ascent” method, views on commercial expeditions, climate change's impact on mountaineering, and fatherhood’s influence on his risk approach. We also discuss the recent controversy surrounding celebrated climber Nims Purja and its implications for the mountaineering community. He shares insights on decision-making, resilience, and his surprising role in an upcoming indie horror film. Adrian’s story inspires through extraordinary feats and the embodiment of the adventure spirit. Enjoy! Show notes + MORE Watch on YouTube Newsletter Sign-Up Today’s Sponsors:  Eight Sleep: Use code RICHROLL to get $350 OFF Pod 4 Ultra👉eightsleep.com/richroll  AG1: Get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs 👉drinkAG1.com/richroll. On: Swiss engineering at it’s finest, On crafts high-performance shoes and apparel crafted for comfort and style 👉on.com/richroll Whoop: The 24/7 health & fitness coach that tracks your sleep, strain, recovery, stress, & MORE 👉join.whoop.com/roll Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉 richroll.com/sponsors Find out more about Voicing Change Media at voicingchange.media and follow us @voicingchange

19 Syys 20242h 10min

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