The Paradox of Passion With Brad Stulberg & Steve Magness
The Rich Roll Podcast19 Maalis 2019

The Paradox of Passion With Brad Stulberg & Steve Magness

Follow your passion. For many it's a mantra. For others, an over-hyped trope. I plead guilty to advocating this pursuit — a subject worthy of frequent exploration on the podcast. But is a life propelled by passion always the best course of action? The answer, it turns out, is complicated. Passion can be a gift. But only if you know how to properly channel it. The same drive that fuels breakthroughs — whether they're athletic, scientific, entrepreneurial, or artistic — can be every bit as destructive as it is productive. Unchecked by balance (that other culturally touted virtue), passion can manifest as a curse, leading to endless seeking, suffering, and burnout. Simply put, passion is a paradox. To demystify this important subject, my friends Brad Stulberg and Steve Magness return to the podcast (their 1st appearance was RRP 293 back in June 2017) to explore how to develop, harness and express the right kind of passion to unlock potential and actualize a meaningful, purpose-driven life. Long time listeners might recall Steve as a former elite track & field athlete who clocked an extraordinary 4:01 mile in high school. Today, Steve is one of the most accomplished, respected and in demand track & field and cross country coaches in the world. In addition to serving up duties at the University of Houston, he is the personal coach to some of the most accomplished professional and Olympic runners on the planet. In addition, he consults with start-up technology companies on innovation and growth, holds a Master’s degree in Exercise Science from George Mason University, and serves as an adjunct professor at St. Mary’s University in the United Kingdom. Brad is a former McKinsey & Co. health care consultant turned writer specializing in the health and science of human performance. Lauded for his ability to merge the latest science with compelling personal stories and practical insights, his work has been published in The New York Times, Outside Magazine, New York Magazine, Forbes, NPR, The Los Angeles Times & Runner’s World. Together, Steve and Brad are the co-authors of Peak Performance: Elevate Your Game, Avoid Burnout, and Thrive with the New Science of Success*, a science-based primer on the principles that drive and sustain high performance in sport, business and life. This week marks the publication of their latest collaboration, aptly titled The Passion Paradox: A Guide to Going All In, Finding Success, and Discovering the Benefits of an Unbalanced Life*. A fascinating look int0 the science behind passion and it’s double-edge-sword nature, it's a must read for anyone searching for that spark or how to best harness its magical powers to unlock inner potential. Today's conversation is a wide-ranging exploration into the very nature of passion. Chock-a-block with scientific takeaways & experiential insights, we examine the pros and cons of this intoxicating impulse. Enjoy! Rich

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Chip Conley: How To Become a Modern Elder, Create A Second Wave & Regenerate Your Soul

Chip Conley: How To Become a Modern Elder, Create A Second Wave & Regenerate Your Soul

What if we reimagined aging not as something to fear—but rather as something aspirational? Rich's guest for this exploration is 'Modern Elder" Chip Conley. A hotelier and hospitality maverick, Chip is the founder of America’s second-largest boutique hotel company and former Strategic Advisor and Global Head of Hospitality for Airbnb, where he was instrumental in guiding the founders of this fast-growing start-up into the global hospitality brand it is today. In addition, Chip is a New York Times bestselling author and founder of Modern Elder Academy, the first midlife wisdom school dedicated to transforming aging. Today’s episode is also viewable on YouTube: bit.ly/chipconley681 More about Chip + show notes: https://bit.ly/richroll681 To celebrate the 10th anniversary of 'Finding Ultra', Rich is giving away 50 personally inscribed copies. Enter to win by signing up for his mailing list HERE. Peace + Plants, Rich

23 Touko 20222h 12min

Dr. Will Bulsiewicz On All Things Microbiome: Heal Your Gut, Sidestep Disease & Thrive

Dr. Will Bulsiewicz On All Things Microbiome: Heal Your Gut, Sidestep Disease & Thrive

One of the most popular guests in the history of this podcast, Dr. Will Bulsiewicz ‘Dr. B' joined me back on episode #538 for a deep dive on the gut and honing our immune systems. Today we dive even deeper with a comprehensive investigation of the microbiome, why it’s important, and how we can tend to it to sidestep disease and live our healthiest. Specific topics include: What COVID has taught us about the benefits of a plant-predominant diet The relationship between the microbiome, metabolic health, and weight management How the microbiome affects cognition, brain health, and mental health The adaptability of the microbiome What a carnivorous diet does to the microbiome How to train the gut to overcome food intolerances The rise of personalized nutrition And many other fascinating topics Today’s episode is also viewable on YouTube: bit.ly/Drbulsiewicz680 More about today’s episode and review the show notes, visit: https://bit.ly/richroll678 Final Note: As a compendium to this conversation, Dr. B created an impressively thorough document detailing all scientific references for this episode and many other helpful, additional resources. Download this free document HERE. Peace + Plants,

16 Touko 20222h 58min

Roll On: Kristian Blummenfelt, The Ministry of Truth, & Sustainable Self-Growth

Roll On: Kristian Blummenfelt, The Ministry of Truth, & Sustainable Self-Growth

Welcome to another edition of ‘Roll On’, wherein Rich Roll and journalist & author Adam Skolnick riff on matters of interest across sports, culture, entertainment, and self-betterment.  Specific topics discussed in today’s episode include: Adam's latest NYT piece A Free Diver’s Training Partners: Sharks Outstanding performances from the Ironman World Championships A brief conversation with IMWC Kristian Blummenfelt & his coach Olav Aleksander Bu Should a 6 year old be permitted to run a marathon? Endurance wins: Jackie Hunt-Broersma & William Goodge the implications of overturning Roe v. Wade why Joe Biden's 'Ministry of Truth' is problematic thoughts on how to create sustainable growth; and check-in with coach Chris Hauth Thank you to Tristan from Utah for today’s listener question. If you want your query discussed, drop it on our Facebook Group Page or, better yet, leave a voicemail at (424) 235-4626. Note: We will be recording a sleep specific AMA episode with Dr. Matthew Walker (RRP 600) in the near future. Please submit your seep questions for consideration by sending an e-mail to rrpstudio@richroll.com or leaving a voicemail at (424) 235-4626. Reminder that you can watch today’s podcast on YouTube. And as always, the podcast streams wild and free on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Enjoy! Peace + Plants, Rich

12 Touko 20221h 41min

Gemma Newman, MD On Optimizing Hormone Health

Gemma Newman, MD On Optimizing Hormone Health

Today’s episode explores nutrition, lifestyle  and overall well-being with a particular focus on hormone health – particularly (but not exclusively) women’s hormone health, aging, and reproductive care – with Gemma Newman., MD. A Senior Partner at a family medicine practice in the U.K. and author of ‘The Plant Power Doctor’, Gemma is a graduate of the University of Wales College of Medicine with expertise in a variety of specialities, including elder care, endocrinology, pediatrics, obstetrics and gynecology, psychiatry, general surgery, and urology. Today’s episode is also viewable on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S3UzS5YhcA To read more about today’s episode and review the show notes, visit: https://bit.ly/richroll678 To pick up Rich’s latest book Voicing Change: Vol. II, visit: https://www.richroll.com/voicing-change-ii/ Final Note: As a compendium to this conversation, Gemma created an impressively thorough document detailing all scientific references for this episode and many other helpful, additional resources. I strongly encourage you to download this free document HERE. Peace + Plants, Rich

9 Touko 20222h 4min

Brad Stulberg: Ditch The Hedonic Treadmill For Sustainable Success

Brad Stulberg: Ditch The Hedonic Treadmill For Sustainable Success

Ambition is laudable. But hustle culture extracts a cost. True, sustainable success demands groundedness. Here today to elaborate is Brad Stulberg—a writer and coach specializing in human performance and well-being. Returning for his third appearance (you can check out episodes #293 & #429). Brad is the author of three books: Peak Performance, The Passion Paradox, and his latest, the subject of today’s exchange, The Practice of Groundedness. His work has appeared in the NYT, WSJ, Sports Illustrated, Wired, Forbes, GQ, TIME, & Outside. He is the co-founder of The Growth Equation newsletter & podcast alongside elite track & field coach Steve Magness. This is a conversation about striving–not out of compulsion–but from a place of wholeness and love. It’s a state of mind and action Brad calls groundedness. In addition, we discuss in great detail the principles upon which to build sustainable success and a life grounded in meaning and fulfillment. Trigger Warning: We discuss a few intense mental health topics including suicidal ideation—in fairly graphic detail. So sensitive viewers please be advised. This conversation is overflowing with evidence-and-experience-based, practical, and actionable life counsel. You can also watch the magic transpire on YouTube. As always, the podcast streams free on Apple Podcasts & Spotify. Pick up Rich’s lates book VOICING CHANGE Vol. II HERE. For full show notes and to read more about Terry, go HERE. Enjoy the show! Peace + Plants, Rich

2 Touko 20222h 19min

Terry Crews On Healthy Masculinity, Strength Through Vulnerability & True Power

Terry Crews On Healthy Masculinity, Strength Through Vulnerability & True Power

In today’s episode, we explore masculinity—both toxic and healthy. Overcoming obstacles. How to confront your past, own your path, and ultimately step into your truest power and most self-actualized self. Our guide for this journey is star of screens big and small, Terry Crews. You may know him from films like Idiocracy and The Expendables. Or from his starring turn in television shows like Brooklyn Nine-Nine, Everyone Hates Chris, America’s Got Talent or one of his many other projects. Terry’s latest book, and the focus of today’s conversation, is entitled Tough: My Journey To Power: a memoir that chronicles the trauma, challenges and unhealthy social programming he faced—factors that led to anger, addiction, selfishness, entitlement, and the many problems those dispositions invite. Today Terry shares his journey—warts and all. The visually inclined can watch the magic transpire on YouTube. As always, the podcast streams wild and free on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Pick up Rich’s lates book VOICING CHANGE Vol. II HERE. For full show notes and to read more about Terry, go HERE. Enjoy the show! Peace + Plants, Rich

25 Huhti 20222h 23min

Roll On: How Social Media Erodes The Mind, Finding Meaning in Grief & Fitness After Covid (+ Endurance Wins & Rollie Victors!)

Roll On: How Social Media Erodes The Mind, Finding Meaning in Grief & Fitness After Covid (+ Endurance Wins & Rollie Victors!)

Welcome to another edition of ‘Roll On’, wherein Rich Roll and journalist & author Adam Skolnick riff on matters of interest across sports, culture, entertainment, and self-betterment.  Topics discussed in today’s episode include: Rich’s recent adventures in Miami (and getting COVID) Oz Pearlman’s Central Park FKT Robbie Balenger on ‘outlasting a Tesla’ Memorable performances from the Boston Marathon Why the Past 10 Years of American Life Have Been Uniquely Stupid Winners of the 2021 ‘Rollies’ Coaching check-in with Chris Hauth; and We field a listener question on how to make sense of catastrophic and heartbreaking losses If you want your query discussed in a future ‘Roll On’, leave it on our voicemail at (424) 235-4626. Note: We will be recording a sleep specific AMA episode with Dr. Matthew Walker (RRP 600) in the near future. Please submit your seep questions for consideration by sending an e-mail to rrpstudio@richroll.com or leaving a voicemail at (424) 235-4626. Reminder that you can watch today’s podcast on YouTube. And as always, the podcast streams wild and free on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Enjoy! Peace + Plants, Rich

21 Huhti 20221h 56min

Maya Shankar: The Power Of Slight Changes (And Why We Do What We Do)

Maya Shankar: The Power Of Slight Changes (And Why We Do What We Do)

In today’s episode, cognitive neuroscientist & former Senior Advisor in the Obama White House, Dr. Maya Shankar joins Rich to talk about the science behind growth & transformation. This is a conversation about navigating change, igniting professional growth, and managing grief through the behavioral science lens of Maya’s personal experience and expertise. Maya shares the therapeutic benefits and empowerment from sharing hardships, grief and shame with those around you, and how to make meaning out of hardships and struggles. The visually inclined can watch the magic transpire on YouTube. As always, the podcast streams wild and free on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Pick up Rich’s lates book VOICING CHANGE Vol. II HERE. For full show notes and to read more about Maya, go HERE. Enjoy the show! Peace + Plants, Rich

18 Huhti 20222h 28min

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