111. This is why Tolkien SHOULD have rewritten The Hobbit  : The Hobbit #7

111. This is why Tolkien SHOULD have rewritten The Hobbit : The Hobbit #7

We weren’t huge fans of Tolkien’s changes to chapter 1 of The Hobbit in his abandoned 1960 rewrite–but chapter 2 surprised us with it’s pitch-perfect changes! Some of the things we discuss are:

  • Want the first edition of The Hobbit? Get ready to pay!
  • Middle-earth gains space–and is now the “character” we know
  • Gandalf’s got a horse–and he’s AWESOME!
  • Bilbo is more helpless and forgotten–and it’s better
  • JRR Tolkien’s prose is more expertly crafted
  • Listen to Tolkien Reading “Roast Mutton”

In our extended episode (available for our members) we talk about:

  • Why does Tolkien refer to the Dwarves gold as “enchanted”
  • And why is the gold “pale”? Does is have a greater meaning than just a color choice?
  • The Hobbit film fan-edit — let’s watch it together!

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101. Bree’s Dark Turn

101. Bree’s Dark Turn

Join our Discord Channel! The films brought us a dark and evil Bree — but Tolkien calls it “friendly” and “familiar”! And Barliman Butterbur has a simple cameo. And then nearly the entire “Strider” chapter is removed–we have no real information on him by the time the Hobbits leave Bree with him in the films! Become a member at https://theonering.com/members or https://theonering.com/patreon to hear our thoughts on: * The missed opportunity of Barliman Butterbur’s Brewery * Nob’s a Hobbit… but is Bob?! * Merry survived the black breath in Bree WITHOUT athelas… how? * What’s Celebrimbor’s fate in The Rings of Power? BECOME A MEMBER! Get access to the extended edition of this podcast, our private Discord chat, and live chats. You can also join for $5 a month on Patreon 🔗 Episode Links Glass Hammer’s Middle-earth Album Join our Discord Community (for free) Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member 🎧 Subscribe to our Podcast Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member Subscribe on Apple Subscribe on Spotify 🔍 If You Like Tolkien The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (audiobook) The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (book) The Silmarillion The Fall of Gondolin The Children of Hurin The Atlas of Middle-earth Make Tolkien Great Again – Tengwar Hat

21 Touko 202446min

100. Should The Lord of the Rings Films have kept the Barrow-downs?

100. Should The Lord of the Rings Films have kept the Barrow-downs?

Join our Discord Channel! Dropping the Barrow-downs removes one of the most important callbacks in the final Battle of the Pelennor Fields before Minas Tirith. It also excises some of the wonderful depth of Middle-earth that Tolkien reveals in these nods and glances. We also take a look at the new game, “Tales of the Shire.” Become a member at https://theonering.com/members or https://theonering.com/patreon to hear our thoughts on: * If Tom Bombadil was removed from the film, how could Jackson have integrated the Barrow-downs scene into his film? Thoughts on our next podcast series. BECOME A MEMBER! Get access to the extended edition of this podcast, our private Discord chat, and live chats. You can also join for $5 a month on Patreon 🔗 Episode Links Join our Discord Community (for free) Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member 🎧 Subscribe to our Podcast Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member Subscribe on Apple Subscribe on Spotify 🔍 If You Like Tolkien The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (audiobook) The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (book) The Silmarillion The Fall of Gondolin The Children of Hurin The Atlas of Middle-earth Make Tolkien Great Again – Tengwar Hat

14 Touko 202452min

99. Tom Bombadil is NOT important? Tolkien said it!

99. Tom Bombadil is NOT important? Tolkien said it!

Join our Discord Channel! Tom Bombadil is a polarizing figure in Middle-earth. Some hate him, some love him. Peter Jackson decided to completely avoid that discussion and simply excise him from the film. What’s really interesting is that his comments about Bombadil really mirror JRR Tolkien’s own points made in a letter in 1954. Become a member at https://theonering.com/members or https://theonering.com/patreon to hear our thoughts on: How do we hear Tom Bombadil’s songs in our own head? How could Jackson have added Bombadil to the films? Who would have made a great actor to portray Bombadil? BECOME A MEMBER! Get access to the extended edition of this podcast, our private Discord chat, and live chats. You can also join for $5 a month on Patreon 🔗 Episode Links Bombadil by The Hildebrandt Brothers Bombadil by John Howe Bombadil’s home by Alan Lee Join our Discord Community (for free) Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member 🎧 Subscribe to our Podcast Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member Subscribe on Apple Subscribe on Spotify 🔍 If You Like Tolkien The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (audiobook) The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (book) The Silmarillion The Fall of Gondolin The Children of Hurin The Atlas of Middle-earth Make Tolkien Great Again – Tengwar Hat

7 Touko 202435min

98. Why Peter Jackson Cut the Old Forest and Old Man Willow

98. Why Peter Jackson Cut the Old Forest and Old Man Willow

Join our Discord Channel! The first REAL dangers outside of the Shire were cut from the films. So, how much did we REALLY lose by not having The Old Forest or Old Man Willow in Peter Jackson’s Lord of the Rings films? Become a member at https://theonering.com/members or https://theonering.com/patreon to hear our thoughts on: What about other evils in Middle-earth? Did Jackson do a disservice by removing them? Losing the depth of the character of Middle-earth IS a loss! Why do forests have SO much character in Middle-earth? BECOME A MEMBER! Get access to the extended edition of this podcast, our private Discord chat, and live chats. You can also join for $5 a month on Patreon 🔗 Episode Links Join our Discord Community (for free) Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member 🎧 Subscribe to our Podcast Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member Subscribe on Apple Subscribe on Spotify 🔍 If You Like Tolkien The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (audiobook) The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (book) The Silmarillion The Fall of Gondolin The Children of Hurin The Atlas of Middle-earth Make Tolkien Great Again – Tengwar Hat

30 Huhti 202441min

97. Peter Jackson CUT the Godfather of the Shire : Film Changes #30 and #31

97. Peter Jackson CUT the Godfather of the Shire : Film Changes #30 and #31

Join our Discord Channel! Peter Jackson cut the one Hobbit who had the backbone to stand up to a Nazgul, the one who struck fear in the hearts of other Hobbits — but was also a serious family man! We also look at the complete loss of Crickhollow. How did that affect the story, and more importantly, the relationships between the Hobbits? Become a member at https://theonering.com/members or https://theonering.com/patreon to hear our thoughts on: Who should have been cast as Farmer Maggot? Who should have been cast as Fatty Bolger? What should have been cut from the films so we could have had Farmer Maggot? BECOME A MEMBER! Get access to the extended edition of this podcast, our private Discord chat, and live chats. You can also join for $5 a month on Patreon 🔗 Episode Links Join our Discord Community (for free) Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member 🎧 Subscribe to our Podcast Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member Subscribe on Apple Subscribe on Spotify 🔍 If You Like Tolkien The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (audiobook) The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (book) The Silmarillion The Fall of Gondolin The Children of Hurin The Atlas of Middle-earth Make Tolkien Great Again – Tengwar Hat

23 Huhti 202436min

96. The Wizard Duel and Orthanc in Real Time : Film Changes #29 and #30

96. The Wizard Duel and Orthanc in Real Time : Film Changes #29 and #30

Join our Discord Channel! We’re back and looking at ALL the changes in Peter Jackson’s Lord of the Rings!  This week we head over to Orthanc and the changes made to Gandalf’s visit to Saruman: Gandalf visiting Saruman isn’t just a flashback–and what about all those little changes made there?! Saruman and Gandalf throw down in a Wizard duel for the ages — Michael and Jonathan seriously DISAGREE on this one! Become a member at https://theonering.com/members or https://theonering.com/patreon to hear our thoughts on: What would wizarding power look like if Jackson hadn’t made it so physical. If Christopher Lee and Ian McKellen had switched roles, what would that have been like? BECOME A MEMBER! Get access to the extended edition of this podcast, our private Discord chat, and live chats. You can also join for $5 a month on Patreon 🔗 Episode Links Join our Discord Community (for free) Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member 🎧 Subscribe to our Podcast Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member Subscribe on Apple Subscribe on Spotify 🔍 If You Like Tolkien The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (audiobook) The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (book) The Silmarillion The Fall of Gondolin The Children of Hurin The Atlas of Middle-earth Make Tolkien Great Again – Tengwar Hat

16 Huhti 20240s

95. An Interview with Howard Shore, Lord of the Rings Composer  – 2003 Roundtable Interviews

95. An Interview with Howard Shore, Lord of the Rings Composer – 2003 Roundtable Interviews

Join our Discord Channel! Here’s another episode in our series of interviews from the December 2, 2003 roundtable discussions (watch https://youtu.be/JqhF91GJbGg and https://youtu.be/avh0HxUI8Vs episodes), we spoke with Lord of the Rings composer Howard Shore. He really goes in depth on his thoughts and composing process! In this episode, Mr. Shore discusses: What it’s like to adapt literary works What he does BEFORE he starts composing What inspired some of the music in the film The works in Return of the King he’s most proud of If The Hobbit theme was a direct lift from another well-known melody Become a member at https://theonering.com/members to hear our thoughts on: Why Jonathan finds The Lord of the Rings soundtrack lacking when compared to some other film scores Jonathan and Michael’s favorite and LEAST favorite themes from the films. BECOME A MEMBER! Get access to the extended edition of this podcast, our private Discord chat, and live chats. Click here! 🔗 Episode Links Join our Discord Community (for free) Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member 🎧 Subscribe to our Podcast Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member Subscribe on Apple Subscribe on Spotify 🔍 If You Like Tolkien The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (audiobook) The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (book) The Silmarillion The Fall of Gondolin The Children of Hurin The Atlas of Middle-earth Make Tolkien Great Again – Tengwar Hat

9 Huhti 202444min

94. The Rings of Power is PEAK TV – Top Scenes, Top Characters and Top Quotes

94. The Rings of Power is PEAK TV – Top Scenes, Top Characters and Top Quotes

Join our Discord Channel! As season 2 of the Rings of Power approaches (later this year, we hope!), Michael and I decided to look back at our favorite scenes, favorite characters, and favorite quotes from our favorite television show! Join us as we rediscover all those times this show took our breath away with it’s ability to weave expertly crafted scenes into a holistic story where almost award-winnning actors perfectly portrayed characters Tolkien should have written. We talk about Our favorite characters Our favorite scenes Quotes from the show that took our breath away! Then, in our extended episode (become a member to get it at https://theonering.com/members) we discuss how Tom Bombadil will become a new (and better) part of Middle-earth through The Rings of Power! BECOME A MEMBER! Get access to the extended edition of this podcast, our private Discord chat, and live chats. Join for free for 1 month or subscribe on Patreon! 🔗 Episode Links The Rings of Power Watch the Rings of Power Again Instead of Reading The Silmarillion, watch The Rings of Power! 🎧 Subscribe to our Podcast Get the Extended Podcast Subscribe on Apple Subscribe on Spotify Subscribe on Google 🔍 If You Like Tolkien Don’t bother reading, just watch The Rings of Power

1 Huhti 20241h 2min

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