ArtiFact #7: John Williams's "Stoner" | Joel Parrish, Alex Sheremet

John Williams (1922 – 1994) is best remembered today for his 1965 novel, STONER. Mostly ignored during his lifetime, the book has become a cult classic after being re-issued in 2006 by the New York Review of Books. But is the novel worthy of its more hyperbolic praise (“perfect”, “almost perfect”, “the most beautiful book in the world”)? Is the text misogynistic, as claimed by the feminist literary critic Elaine Showalter, or do such charges merely paper over some deeper problems in the novel? Finally, what can we say of John Williams’s understanding of his own work? Alex Sheremet and Joel Parrish discuss these questions, and more.

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Timestamps:

0:00 – What is a “cult classic”, anyway? 4:12 – Context & introducing John Williams’s life 12:20 – William Stoner’s first big gamble 18:32 – Implied characterization in STONER 21:18 – The novel’s risky (but successful) opening 29:18 – Alex: John Williams takes no real position in the novel 33:10 – Joel: despite the author’s claims, William Stoner is not a “saint” 34:50 – Why was it a good choice to set the book during WWI, not WWII? 41:10 – Is Gordon Finch a total piece of shit? 46:40 – Edith as (unintended) caricature 54:50 – John Williams’s excellent use of sexual inversion 01:01:18 – Edith guilts Stoner into having a child 01:10:40 – How John Williams slips into stereotype 01:15:52 – Joel: Edith is not given any redeeming qualities 01:25:00 – Katherine Driscoll & William Stoner’s romantic affair 01:34:45 – Alex: Katherine, like Stoner & Lomax, never indicates that she “gets” art 01:45:30 – Critiquing some of the novel’s best passages 02:18:22 – Is William Stoner a failure? 02:38:58 – Debunking Elaine Showalter’s criticisms of STONER 03:26:30 – Jack Kerouac + closing remarks