No Tech for Apartheid w/ Mohammad Khatami & Gabi Schubiner

No Tech for Apartheid w/ Mohammad Khatami & Gabi Schubiner

Paris Marx is joined by Mohammad Khatami and Gabi Schubiner to discuss the complicity of Google, Amazon, and Microsoft in Israel’s ongoing genocide in Gaza and how tech workers are organizing to stop it.Mohammad Khatami and Gabi Schubiner are former Google software engineers and organizers with No Tech for Apartheid.Tech Won’t Save Us offers a critical perspective on tech, its worldview, and wider society with the goal of inspiring people to demand better tech and a better world. Support the show on Patreon.The podcast is made in partnership with The Nation. Production is by Eric Wickham. Transcripts are by Brigitte Pawliw-Fry.Also mentioned in this episode: Find out more about No Tech for Apartheid from their website. Microsoft workers have also launched No Azure for Apartheid. Yuval Abraham reported on the Israeli military’s use of Amazon, Google, and Microsoft’s cloud services and AI in Gaza. Mohammad wrote about being fired by Google in The New Arab. Gabi refers to JWCC, with is a reference to the Department of Defense Joint Warfighting Cloud Capability contract with Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Oracle. Google fired 50 workers earlier this year for organizing over its ties to Israel. The Information reported on how many Arab Americans in tech are scared to speak out in support of Palestinians for fear of retaliation. In 1970, Polaroid workers under the banner of the Polaroid Revolutionary Workers Movement began the first anti-apartheid boycott of a US company by organizing against their employer’s complicity in South African apartheid. The IBM Black Workers Alliance was central to the anti-apartheid campaign at that company. Support the show

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