Ep 90:  Talent Practices Of One Of The Bay Area's Hottest Companies

Ep 90: Talent Practices Of One Of The Bay Area's Hottest Companies

Jessica Mah is the founder and CEO of inDinero, one of the bay area's hottest companies. We met in Israel in 2009 when Jessica was just getting started building the company's software with her computer science background. Today, inDinero has 200 employees across 5 locations. Their purpose is to help businesses with accounting and taxes, like an outsourced finance department. One of Jessica's goals for her organization as it expands is to handle growth gracefully and retain culture along the way. One thing that sets inDinero apart from other companies is their interesting and unique talent practices. Jessica coined ABF talent as a way of rating team members and their performance. A employees are ones that she would enthusiastically rehire given what she knows about them today. B employees are ones that she might rehire but need to show improvement. These team members are put on a program to enhance their performance. Then at the end of the quarter, they will either be fixed or be fired. Jessica is a firm believer that harboring mediocrity is not conducive to good results. Her ranking system has proven very successful in transforming B players into A players. Another unique practice at inDinero is that they do not use e-mail internally. Instead, they converse via group chat rooms and messengers. This prevents employees from being held hostage in group email threads that unnecessarily fill up their mental bandwidth. All of the executives also use a special calendar grid that is tailored to the way that they want to spend their work week. This helps reduce stress and increase productivity. inDinero has a distinct hiring process to improve the odds of successful hiring and they also have high employee referrals. Jessica attributes much of the organization's growth and triumph to their values, such as radical candor and transparency. What you will learn in this episode:
  • ABF framework
  • inDinero's culture committee
  • Crowdsourced culture book for employees
  • Calendar grid for scheduling
  • inDinero's e-mail policy
  • How Jessica deals with recruiters trying to poach employees

Link From The Episode:

Indinero Blog

Jessica Mah on Twitter

(Music by Ronald Jenkees)

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How Sam’s Club CEO Leads an $84B Company Without Losing Humanity

How Sam’s Club CEO Leads an $84B Company Without Losing Humanity

Leading a business with 100,000 employees and $84 billion in revenue isn’t for the faint of heart. Every executive talks about culture and results, but few have done it at this scale. So how do you lead without losing your soul? In this episode, Chris Nicholas, President and CEO of Sam’s Club, pulls back the curtain on what leadership really looks like when the stakes are massive. He shares why purpose and grit—not ego—are the foundation of great leadership. You’ll learn why 85% of Sam’s Club managers started as hourly workers, how Chris uses “ultra-endurance leadership” to stay sharp, and why leaders should run toward difficult things. He also unpacks his trust formula to build trust in a massive organization, how to lead without entitlement, and how to connect your work to a bigger purpose. From energy and sacrifice to upward mobility and culture, Chris shows how business performance and people-first leadership can coexist.   ________________ This episode is sponsored by Workhuman. These days, it feels like there isn’t much good to go around in the world of work.  But Workhuman knows when we celebrate the good in each of us, we bring out the best in all of us. It’s why they created the world’s # 1 employee recognition platform — and they didn’t stop there, combining rich recognition data with AI to create Human Intelligence, so you can get uniquely good insights into performance, skills, engagement and more. To learn more about how you can join their force for good, go to Workhuman.com, or check out their own podcast, “How We Work,” which explores the trends, issues, relationships, and experiences that shape our workplaces. ________________ Start your day with the world’s top leaders by joining thousands of others at Great Leadership on Substack. Just enter your email: ⁠⁠https://greatleadership.substack.com/

26 Touko 59min

Sparks: Timeless Traits and Skills for the Future-Proof Leader

Sparks: Timeless Traits and Skills for the Future-Proof Leader

We’ve all had the experience of working for a bad leader, the kind that drains your energy, stifles your motivation, and makes Monday mornings feel like a dreadful chore. But great leaders do the opposite. And in a world evolving faster than ever, we can’t afford to leave leadership to chance. In today’s Leadership Spark, we’ll tackle two big questions: Will the leader of 2030 be different from today’s leader? And if so, how? Backed by insights from 140+ CEO interviews and a global LinkedIn survey of nearly 14,000 employees, I share the timeless traits leaders must keep, and the new skills they must develop to lead in a rapidly changing world. Get a clearer understanding of what leadership really means, why most people can’t define it, and what it will take to lead organizations, and society, into the future. ________________ This episode is sponsored by Workhuman. These days, it feels like there isn’t much good to go around in the world of work.  But Workhuman knows when we celebrate the good in each of us, we bring out the best in all of us. It’s why they created the world’s #1 employee recognition platform — and they didn’t stop there, combining rich recognition data with AI to create Human Intelligence, so you can get uniquely good insights into performance, skills, engagement and more. To learn more about how you can join their force for good, go to Workhuman.com, or check out their own podcast, “How We Work,” which explores the trends, issues, relationships, and experiences that shape our workplaces. ________________ Start your day with the world’s top leaders by joining thousands of others at Great Leadership on Substack. Just enter your email: ⁠⁠https://greatleadership.substack.com/

23 Touko 10min

Lead Like It’s 2025: What Today’s Leaders Must Add to their Toolkit

Lead Like It’s 2025: What Today’s Leaders Must Add to their Toolkit

The rules of leadership have changed, but most leaders didn't get the memo. We’re leading in a time of constant disruption, fractured teams, and AI eating away at every corner of the workplace. It’s no longer enough to rely on outdated mindsets, old leadership playbooks, and hoping for the best. In this episode, we explore what real future-ready leadership looks like. Navy SEAL and leadership coach Rich Diviney shares why it’s not your skills, but your attributes, like resilience and adaptability, that determine how you lead under pressure and make you an elite leader. Keith Ferazzi, Founder, Chair, & CEO at Ferrazzi Greenlight, rewrites the traditional leadership script by laying out his “teamship” model for building teams that hold each other accountable. And finally, Dan Priest, US Chief AI Officer of PwC, shows how to stop fearing AI and start using it as a strategic edge. This is the mindset, model, and method leaders need to thrive and lead effectively in this next era. Don't miss it! ________________ This episode is sponsored by Workhuman. These days, it feels like there isn’t much good to go around in the world of work.  But Workhuman knows when we celebrate the good in each of us, we bring out the best in all of us. It’s why they created the world’s # 1 employee recognition platform — and they didn’t stop there, combining rich recognition data with AI to create Human Intelligence, so you can get uniquely good insights into performance, skills, engagement and more. To learn more about how you can join their force for good, go to Workhuman.com, or check out their own podcast, “How We Work,” which explores the trends, issues, relationships, and experiences that shape our workplaces. ________________ Start your day with the world’s top leaders by joining thousands of others at Great Leadership on Substack. Just enter your email: ⁠⁠https://greatleadership.substack.com/

19 Touko 51min

Sparks: Redefining Employee Experience and How to Develop a REAL Future Ready Workplace

Sparks: Redefining Employee Experience and How to Develop a REAL Future Ready Workplace

We often think of employee experience as a checklist: better offices, better technology, better perks. But we’ve been missing the bigger picture all along. In today’s Leadership Spark, we dive deep into how employee experience has fundamentally evolved, and why it's now the most powerful lever leaders have to shape trust, loyalty, and performance at work. Drawing on research from 252 organizations and insights from 150 senior executives, we’ll explore the real drivers of experience: culture, technology, and physical space. You’ll learn why work today isn't just about what people do, but about the environment that shapes how they feel, how they connect, and why they stay. If you want to future-proof your leadership and your organization, it starts with designing an experience worth fighting for. ________________ This episode is sponsored by Workhuman. These days, it feels like there isn’t much good to go around in the world of work.  But Workhuman knows when we celebrate the good in each of us, we bring out the best in all of us. It’s why they created the world’s # 1 employee recognition platform — and they didn’t stop there, combining rich recognition data with AI to create Human Intelligence, so you can get uniquely good insights into performance, skills, engagement and more. To learn more about how you can join their force for good, go to Workhuman.com, or check out their own podcast, “How We Work,” which explores the trends, issues, relationships, and experiences that shape our workplaces. ________________ Start your day with the world’s top leaders by joining thousands of others at Great Leadership on Substack. Just enter your email: ⁠⁠https://greatleadership.substack.com/

16 Touko 23min

How Leaders Can Reignite the American Dream at Work with Entrepreneur Mark Matson

How Leaders Can Reignite the American Dream at Work with Entrepreneur Mark Matson

What if the biggest thing holding us back from living the American Dream isn’t our circumstances, but our mindset? In this episode, Mark Matson, Author of Experiencing the American Dream and CEO of Matson Money, breaks down what the American Dream really means today. Mark explains how your "screen" or the mental filters shape the way you see the world, your actions, results, and ultimately your life. He makes a strong case that the American Dream isn’t dead, it’s just being filtered through the wrong lens of the “juicy victimhood” mentality, entitlement, and resentment. He also explores how these mindsets are showing up in the workplace and it’s killing growth. Mark also points out how many people today, especially younger generations, live as if they’re still stuck in the coal mines of the past, despite having more tools, technology, and opportunity than ever before. He explains why leaders need to stop over-parenting employees because real change starts with personal accountability, resilience, and creativity. We also unpack how to build high-performance teams and how the concept of addition through subtraction helps you build a stronger team. ________________ This episode is sponsored by Workhuman. Here’s a good question for you: Who in your marketing department is a flight risk? How about: Where are your talent or skills gaps? Or: Which employees make up your next generation of leaders? If you couldn’t answer any of these, then you need to check out Human Intelligence™, from Workhuman. By combining AI with the rich data of their #1 rated employee recognition platform, Human Intelligence unlocks insights and capabilities that redefine talent management, cultural transformation, and employee engagement. Want to learn more? Go to workhuman.com and learn how today’s leading companies are turning AI into a force for good with Human Intelligence. ________________ Start your day with the world’s top leaders by joining thousands of others at Great Leadership on Substack. Just enter your email: ⁠⁠https://greatleadership.substack.com/

12 Touko 1h 1min

Sparks: The Brutal Truth About Employee Engagement No One Wants to Admit

Sparks: The Brutal Truth About Employee Engagement No One Wants to Admit

We’ve thrown the entire pantry at employee engagement from hot yoga to free snacks to branded hoodies, and somehow, people are still checking out. In today’s Leadership Spark, we call out the broken cycle of gimmicky engagement strategies and look at what actually drives loyalty, performance, and retention in the modern workplace. Spoiler: it’s not about giving people more stuff. It’s about giving them something to believe in. We’ll unpack why smart companies are ditching the perks arms race and building something better: a workplace that feels like an experience, not a transaction. If you're tired of short-term fixes and ready to build real culture, press play. ________________ This episode is sponsored by Workhuman. These days, it feels like there isn’t much good to go around in the world of work.  But Workhuman knows when we celebrate the good in each of us, we bring out the best in all of us. It’s why they created the world’s # 1 employee recognition platform — and they didn’t stop there, combining rich recognition data with AI to create Human Intelligence, so you can get uniquely good insights into performance, skills, engagement and more.  To learn more about how you can join their force for good, go to Workhuman.com, or check out their own podcast, “How We Work,” which explores the trends, issues, relationships, and experiences that shape our workplaces. ________________ Start your day with the world’s top leaders by joining thousands of others at Great Leadership on Substack. Just enter your email: ⁠⁠https://greatleadership.substack.com/

9 Touko 9min

Building Smarter Organizations Through the Human-AI Partnership with McKinsey Senior Fellow Dr. Michael Chui

Building Smarter Organizations Through the Human-AI Partnership with McKinsey Senior Fellow Dr. Michael Chui

AI is becoming more powerful and autonomous. What we once thought was a future trend is now reshaping how organizations are operating today. But the biggest risk of AI isn't replacement. More likely, it's reliance. Are you prepared for what's coming? In today's episode, Dr. Michael Chui, Senior Fellow at McKinsey and QuantumBlack AI, reveals how AI is rewriting the rules of competition, leadership, and even hiring structure. You’ll learn why over-relying on AI can erode human judgment and creativity, how to build organizations that balance human decision-making with machine efficiency, and why managing AI agents will soon be as important as managing people. Dr. Chui shares how leaders can prevent “silent automation” from taking over their teams, what skills future managers must develop (including prompt engineering and oversight), and how companies can redesign roles, workflows, and organizational structures to thrive in the era of agentic AI.   ________________ This episode is sponsored by Workhuman. Here’s a good question for you: Who in your marketing department is a flight risk? How about: Where are your talent or skills gaps? Or: Which employees make up your next generation of leaders? If you couldn’t answer any of these, then you need to check out Human Intelligence™, from Workhuman. By combining AI with the rich data of their #1 rated employee recognition platform, Human Intelligence unlocks insights and capabilities that redefine talent management, cultural transformation, and employee engagement. Want to learn more? Go to workhuman.com and learn how today’s leading companies are turning AI into a force for good with Human Intelligence. ________________ Start your day with the world’s top leaders by joining thousands of others at Great Leadership on Substack. Just enter your email: ⁠⁠https://greatleadership.substack.com/

5 Touko 55min

Sparks: It’s Okay to be Human: How Leaders Can Turn Vulnerability Into a Superpower

Sparks: It’s Okay to be Human: How Leaders Can Turn Vulnerability Into a Superpower

Most leaders think vulnerability is risky, but avoiding it is far riskier. Despite all the research and talk about authenticity, only 11% of companies view vulnerability as a leadership strength—and 84% of employees rarely, if ever, see it practiced. That’s a problem. In today’s Leadership Spark, we explore what happens when leaders embrace vulnerability, and what’s lost when they don’t. Backed by my research across thousands of employees and organizations, you'll uncover in this episode how leading with vulnerability isn’t just about being authentic. It’s a strategy for building trust, connection, and lasting impact. You'll also learn how to balance confidence with openness, and why your team might be waiting for you to go first in being vulnerable. ________________ This episode is sponsored by Workhuman. Here’s a good question for you: Who in your marketing department is a flight risk? How about: Where are your talent or skills gaps? Or: Which employees make up your next generation of leaders? If you couldn’t answer any of these, then you need to check out Human Intelligence™, from Workhuman. By combining AI with the rich data of their #1 rated employee recognition platform, Human Intelligence unlocks insights and capabilities that redefine talent management, cultural transformation, and employee engagement. Want to learn more? Go to workhuman.com and learn how today’s leading companies are turning AI into a force for good with Human Intelligence. ________________ Start your day with the world’s top leaders by joining thousands of others at Great Leadership on Substack. Just enter your email: ⁠⁠https://greatleadership.substack.com/

2 Touko 10min

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