Those Aren't People!
Sasquatch Odyssey27 Touko 2024

Those Aren't People!

This is the remastered version of my interview with Todd Neiss from episode 24 that aired back on May 14, 2021. Todd is a long time investigator with tons of field experience and some amazing encounters to share with us on the show tonight. He is also the organizer of the Beachfoot invite only yearly event, that hosts The Who’s Who of the Bigfoot world. Todd had his first sighting in the 90’s while conducting explosive maneuvers with the military. Stick around and hear his latest encounter from late this past year that he shares for the first time publicly. It’s a pretty wild account. See Todd’s bio below for more information on his life and experiences as a Bigfoot researcher.



Bigfoot witness-turned-researcher, Todd M. Neiss has been an active investigator for over 28 years. Born and raised in the Pacific Northwest, he grew up hearing of these legendary creatures, alternately known as Bigfoot or Sasquatch, but gave it little credibility beyond that of a good old-fashioned campfire tale designed to frighten young campers. All of that changed for Todd in the spring of 1993.

As a Sergeant in the Army's 1249th Combat Engineer Battalion, he came face to face with, not one, but three of the elusive giants in the temperate rain forest of Oregon's Coast Range while conducting high-explosives training. His sighting was independently corroborated by three fellow soldiers who also witnessed these creatures.

Since that fateful day, Neiss has conducted numerous investigations including several long-term expeditions in the Coastal, Cascade and Blue Mountain Ranges of Oregon & Washington, as well as Northern California, Arizona, Alaska, Nebraska and British Columbia. Todd believes that, in the tradition of Jane Goodall, Biruté Galdikas and Diane Fossey, the best way to obtain credible evidence of the existence of these fascinating beings is to insert a small research team into the heart of prime Bigfoot habitat for an extended period of time; ideally for 45 to 60-day rotations. In doing so, he hopes to acclimatize the creatures to their presence and eventually overcome their inherent apprehension of humans.

It is his opinion that these creatures possess a relatively high IQ in comparison to recognized great apes. Neiss’ current theory focuses on that presumed intelligence which he believes fosters an irresistible sense of curiosity...a curiosity which Neiss intends to exploit. By presenting a variety of baits as well as an array of unconventional, non-threatening lures within a pre-designated area, he hopes to successfully collect irrefutable evidence of these creature’s existence. "It is my goal to entice these animals by presenting a non-threatening posture and piquing their curiosity, thereby luring them into a specified area where irrefutable evidence can then be obtained," says Neiss. Once the creatures are officially recognized, his ultimate goal is to establish a management program to ensure their perpetual existence for future generations to appreciate.

Over the years, his research has garnered him international attention. He has been the subject of numerous documentaries and TV programs from the US and Canada to the UK and Germany. He has been featured on such programs as: Unsolved Mysteries, Encounters, To the Ends of the Earth, The UnXpected and has been featured on the Discovery Channel, Travel Channel and National Geographic. He has also appeared on numerous radio & TV talk shows, local newscasts and newspapers. He is currently producing a documentary about his recent expedition in the uninhabited Broughton Archipelago of British Columbia called “Operation: Sea Monkey” completed on October 1st, 2016.

Click or enter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgsN8dQMZGY&t=127s to watch the trailer.

He has been a featured speaker at several colleges and universities, and was a regular contributor to the Annual Sasquatch Symposium series held in British Columbia, Canada from 1996 through 1999. Neiss has instructed classes on Bigfoot for the Audubon Society as well as the Campfire Boys & Girls Society; the former involving both classroom and field work and culminating with an overnight working camp in the "Dark Divide" of Washington State's Gifford Pinchot National Forest. Recently he instructed a class for the Scappoose Middle School’s outdoor school.

Most recently, Neiss was a featured for the History Channel’s “The UnXplained” with William Shatner on August 21, 2020. It will air sometime in late November.

Todd is the host of the annual, invitation-only gathering of international Bigfoot researchers called “Beachfoot.” This retreat is held every summer in Oregon’s temperate Coast Range. This unique event has drawn noted researchers from as far away as Australia, Russia, England, Canada, New Zeeland and nearly every state in the U.S. This year will mark their 14th anniversary of the event.

Neiss co-founded the American Primate Conservancy with his wife, Diane Stocking Neiss five years ago. The conservancy was granted a “Domestic Non-Profit Corporation” status by the state of Oregon On October 15, 2015. Their primary mission is “the discovery, knowledge, research, recognition, and protection of the Sasquatch.” The organization has been quietly organizing expeditions, conducting investigations, and participating in multi-media and public speaking engagements in an effort to promote their agenda. They have been actively pursuing grants, donations, sponsorships and volunteers for ongoing research projects.

Ultimately, they plan to establish a world-class “Bigfoot Interpretive Center” in the Pacific Northwest as a showcase for promoting public awareness and education regarding these amazing creatures. The facility would include: an interactive museum, auditorium/conference center, art gallery, multi-media studio, classrooms, library, forensics laboratory, nature walk and outdoor amphitheater.

A veteran of the Iraq War, Neiss recently retired with meritorious honors from the U.S. Army; where he served for over 21 years.

When not working on the project, writing, or conducting research, Todd enjoys fishing, hunting, hiking and camping throughout the Pacific Northwest.

Todd and his wife currently live near Mount Hood, 50 miles east of Portland, Oregon. Nestled in the beautiful Cascaded Mountains, the “Chateau de Squatch” is in an ideal location for which to conduct their research and serves as the temporary headquarters for the conservancy.

The American Primate Conservancy has a website (www.americanprimate.org) which provides information about the Conservancy, projects past and present, theories, and more. Anyone with a legitimate sighting is encouraged to contact Neiss at 971-570-0097 or by e-mail at americanprimate@aol.com. He promises to treat every report confidentially, respectfully and professionally.

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SO EP:653 Bigfoot in the Shadows

SO EP:653 Bigfoot in the Shadows

In this episode, Brian welcomes Mike from New Jersey, who shares his incredible journey from a non-believer to a full-time Bigfoot researcher. Mike discusses his initial Bigfoot expedition, unexpected encounters, and the life-changing experiences that followed.They delve into theories about Bigfoot behavior, vocalizations, and knocks, reflecting on personal and collective research findings. Mike also opens up about his YouTube series 'In the Shadow of Big Red Eye,' detailing its evolution and content. The discussion covers upcoming speaking engagements, conferences, and the promise of new episodes.Visit Shadow Of Red EyeGet Our FREE NewsletterGet Brian's Books Leave Us A VoicemailVisit Our WebsiteSupport Our Sponsors 00:00 Welcome and Introduction 00:13 Mike's Bigfoot Journey Begins 03:37 The First Bigfoot Expedition 07:37 Reflecting on the First Encounter 14:57 Diving Deeper into Bigfoot Research 19:34 The Elusive Bigfoot: Belief and Evidence 20:51 Analyzing Famous Bigfoot Evidence 22:43 Personal Encounters and Shifting Beliefs 24:14 Theories on Bigfoot's Nature 27:27 Unique Bigfoot Behaviors and Stories 28:59 Bigfoot Communication: Tree Knocks and More 33:40 Bigfoot Research Presentations and Community 36:13 In the Shadow of Big Red Eye: The ShowBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/sasquatch-odyssey--4839697/support.

29 Elo 44min

SO EP:652 The Badge and the Beast

SO EP:652 The Badge and the Beast

Six veteran law enforcement officers break their silence about encounters that challenged everything they thought they knew about the wilderness they patrol. From a deputy sheriff responding to escalating wildlife complaints at a remote Washington property, to a state trooper whose routine traffic stop on a foggy Kentucky highway became anything but ordinary, these firsthand accounts reveal what happens when those sworn to serve and protect come face to face with something that shouldn't exist.Travel across America through the eyes of the officers who documented the evidence that was later buried in bureaucracy. A park ranger's search and rescue operation in Northern California that uncovered more than missing hikers. A Michigan deputy's investigation into vandalism at abandoned copper mines that led deep underground. An Alaska state trooper's encounter on the desolate Dalton Highway where something survived impossible Arctic conditions. A Texas deputy's missing person case in the Big Thicket that ended with an inexplicable recovery.These aren't campfire tales or local legends.These are detailed accounts from trained observers who filed reports, collected evidence, and photographed proof of something living in the forgotten corners of America. Something that walks upright, demonstrates intelligence, and has learned to avoid human contact while dwelling in the spaces between our world and one far older.Their badges couldn't protect them from the truth. Now they share what really lurks in the backwoods of America.Get Our FREE NewsletterGet Brian's Books Leave Us A VoicemailVisit Our WebsiteSupport Our SponsorsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/sasquatch-odyssey--4839697/support.

27 Elo 52min

SO EP:651 The Cannibal Giants

SO EP:651 The Cannibal Giants

In this episode, Fred from Alaska interviews Sonny Grant, a Tlingit native from Juneau, Alaska, who shares his lifetime of outdoor adventures and chilling encounters with the mysterious 'Wild Man'—commonly known as Sasquatch. Sonny recounts vivid memories of his first sighting in 1966 while hiking in Mount Juneau and a terrifying nighttime encounter near the West Glacier Trail.He ties his experiences to Tlingit tribal lore and the stories passed down from elders, highlighting the deep-seated cultural significance of these creatures.The episode transitions to a story about Greg, a European visitor, whose ski joring trip on the Iditarod trail turns nightmarish with a close encounter involving a massive, menacing 'Wild Man.' This gripping narrative intricately weaves cultural legends, personal testimonies, and the haunting mysteries of the Alaskan wilderness. Get Our FREE NewsletterGet Brian's Books Leave Us A VoicemailVisit Our WebsiteSupport Our Sponsors00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction 00:07 Early Life and Outdoor Adventures 01:02 First Encounter with the Wild Man 06:05 The Cannibal Giant and Tribal Stories 06:39 A Terrifying Experience in the Woods 16:02 Revisiting the Site and Overcoming Fear 17:05 Reflections on Size and Strength 18:28 Toughness of the Older Generations 20:22 Family Stories and Sasquatch Sightings 20:47 Interactive Map and Creepy Behaviors 21:05 Lured by a Baby's Cry 21:54 Oral History and Elders' Stories 22:25 Introduction to Greg's Encounter 22:58 Ski Joring on the Iditarod Trail 25:20 Strange Movements and Nervous Dogs 26:59 Eye Shine and Growing Fear 29:55 A Terrifying Encounter 33:44 Morning After and Dog Behavior 36:37 Returning Home and Lingering FearBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/sasquatch-odyssey--4839697/support.

24 Elo 41min

SO EP:650 Bigfoot In The School Yard

SO EP:650 Bigfoot In The School Yard

In this episode, Curtis from California shares an extraordinary tale of his Bigfoot encounter in 1983, which he experienced with his identical twin brother and friends near an elementary school in Yreka, California. Curtis recounts the intense and startling night where they witnessed three Bigfoots crossing a field and even leaping over a high chain-link fence.He discusses their living conditions and his subsequent researches into Bigfoot encounters, shedding light on the broader world of Bigfoot enthusiasts and researchers. The host also draws parallels to other sightings near human habitations, exploring the idea that such encounters are more common than previously thought. This episode delves deep into the unexpected and often surprising locales where Bigfoot encounters can occur.Get Our FREE NewsletterGet Brian's Books Leave Us A VoicemailVisit Our WebsiteSupport Our SponsorsVisit Untold Radio AM00:00 Welcome and Introduction 00:09 Curtis's Bigfoot Encounter 01:25 Discovering the Bigfoot Community 03:23 Setting the Scene: Yreka, California 06:44 The Encounter Begins 12:06 The Bigfoot Sighting 16:05 Curtis's Perspective 21:37 Unsettling Encounter with Mysterious Figures 22:26 A Sudden Realization: It's Not Human 24:33 Panic and Shock: The Aftermath 28:36 Debriefing and Reflection 32:56 Sharing the Story: From Silence to Podcasts 35:06 Analyzing the Encounter: Insights and TheoriesBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/sasquatch-odyssey--4839697/support.

22 Elo 48min

SO EP:649 Not All Bigfoot Are Alike

SO EP:649 Not All Bigfoot Are Alike

Tonight, we bring you six firsthand encounters that challenge everything you think you know about Sasquatch stories. No howling in the night, no massive footprints, no blurry photographs. Instead, these accounts from timber workers, truck drivers, and Forest Service employees reveal something far more unsettling: evidence of intelligence, curiosity, and perhaps even attempts at communication from something that shouldn't exist.We begin in the timber lands of Coos County, Oregon, where a harvester operator discovered bent trees that defied physics and later found unexplainable hair wrapped in his equipment. From there, we travel Highway 97 through central Oregon with a truck driver who encountered something that walked like a man but stood eight feet tall and could keep pace with his moving vehicle.The third account takes us to a remote Forest Service monitoring station that was dragged thirty feet from its foundation by something strong enough to dent quarter-inch steel with what appeared to be handprints.The stories grow progressively stranger as we hear from a fisherman on the Klamath River who woke to find river rocks stacked in perfect spirals around his camp, followed by a ski patroller who tracked something walking upright through deep snow at angles that should have been impossible to climb.Our final and perhaps most disturbing account comes from a man who inherited his grandfather's remote cabin, along with forty years of journals documenting an ongoing attempt at communication with something that was learning to speak human words.These aren't the Bigfoot stories you've heard before. There's no dramatic monster reveal, no chase through the woods, no triumphant evidence collected. Instead, these are quiet accounts of boundaries crossed, of intelligence observed, and of evidence that conveniently disappears whenever proof might threaten the carefully maintained secret of something living alongside us in the vast forests of the Pacific Northwest. Each storyteller was forever changed by their experience, left with questions that have no comfortable answers and knowledge they can't quite reconcile with the ordinary world.A word of caution: these stories were selected specifically because they don't fit the usual narrative. They suggest something more complex than a hidden primate, something that watches us with the same intensity we search for it. Whether you're a believer, a skeptic, or somewhere in between, these accounts will leave you reconsidering what might be out there in the darkness between the trees.Get Our FREE NewsletterGet Brian's Books Leave Us A VoicemailVisit Our WebsiteSupport Our SponsorsVisit Untold Radio AMBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/sasquatch-odyssey--4839697/support.

20 Elo 49min

SO EP:648 Bigfoot On The River

SO EP:648 Bigfoot On The River

In this episode, join us as we share two astonishing tales of mysterious encounters in the Alaskan wilderness. Bruce and David's story takes us to their grandfather's cabin on the Nok River, where they experience unsettling sounds and sightings that lead to a close encounter with a creature known as 'Harry Man.' Despite a harrowing experience, they manage to recount the intense events filled with fear and adrenaline.The second story features Craig, his wife Sheila, and their daughters on a boating trip near Johnstone Bay. What was meant to be a family outing turns into a nerve-wracking rescue mission, where they come face-to-face with enormous, mysterious beings and hear eerie roars that shake them to their core. Filled with suspense, these stories highlight the untamed and enigmatic nature of Alaskan folklore.Get Our FREE NewsletterGet Brian's Books Leave Us A VoicemailVisit Our WebsiteSupport Our SponsorsVisit Untold Radio AM00:00 Introduction and Setting the Scene 01:30 Strange Sounds in the Wilderness 03:15 Encounter with the Unknown 05:18 Return to the Cabin 09:09 A Night of Terror 14:53 Desperate Measures 18:31 A Terrifying Encounter at the Cabin 20:42 The Creature Reveals Itself 22:33 Escape on the River 24:02 Reaching Safety and Sharing the Story 25:41 A New Story Begins: Craig's Encounter 26:34 Strange Figures on the Beach 28:54 Realization and Retreat 31:10 A Close Call and Final Escape 37:54 Conclusion and ThanksBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/sasquatch-odyssey--4839697/support.

17 Elo 42min

SO EP:647 Bigfoot Don't Like Dogs!

SO EP:647 Bigfoot Don't Like Dogs!

In this episode, Brian welcomes guests Tyler and Flat Rock to share their intriguing encounters with Bigfoot/Sasquatch. Tyler recounts his first experience in Southeast Alabama, where a terrifying vocalization led him down a path of in-depth research into the phenomenon.Flat Rock describes his own shocking sighting from his mother's porch and ongoing experiences that have led to extensive audio and video captures of Sasquatch activity on his property in Alabama. The conversation delves into the physical evidence collected, including handprints, hair samples, and vocal recordings, as well as discussing the nature of these creatures—whether purely flesh and blood or possessing unexplained abilities.Listener discretion is advised as the guests recount some unnerving and detailed experiences. Get Our FREE NewsletterGet Brian's Books Leave Us A VoicemailVisit Our WebsiteSupport Our SponsorsVisit Untold Radio AM00:00 Welcome and Introductions 00:20 Tyler's First Encounter with Bigfoot 02:13 The Aftermath and Coping Mechanisms 05:11 Flat Rock's Initial Experience 09:08 Ongoing Research and Sightings 21:03 Detailed Descriptions and Encounters 23:01 Bigfoot in the Deer Stand 26:15 Canine Encounters and Loss 26:48 Mysterious Disappearance of the Dog 27:20 Strange Howls and Canine Distress 28:06 Sasquatch and Dogs: A Tense Relationship 28:40 Sasquatch Activity and Dog Reactions 28:59 Sasquatch Foraging Behavior 30:02 Sasquatch Encounters Near Human Habitats 31:29 Describing the Research Area 32:58 Eye Shine and Bigfoot Theories 34:09 Flesh and Blood vs. High Strangeness 36:18 Regional Differences in Sasquatch 38:52 Challenges of Sasquatch Survival 44:00 Physical Evidence of Sasquatch 47:53 Unheard Sounds and Woo Phenomena 48:39 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/sasquatch-odyssey--4839697/support.

15 Elo 53min

SO EP:646 Into The Darkness

SO EP:646 Into The Darkness

Tonight's story comes from a mother named Sarah who reached out to me through a mutual acquaintance after years of keeping silent about what happened to her family in the remote forests of Alabama. When she first contacted me, she could barely get through the telling without breaking down, especially when describing the night she heard her own voice calling her youngest son into the darkness—while she was standing right beside him.Sarah and her two boys, ages ten and twelve, fled to an inherited cabin in the Bankhead National Forest to escape an abusive relationship. What should have been a healing retreat in nature became a two-month ordeal that defies conventional explanation. The creatures that stalked her family didn't just throw rocks or make strange vocalizations—they learned. They studied. They mimicked the family's voices with perfect accuracy, always trying to lure one of them outside.What makes Sarah's account particularly disturbing is the apparent intelligence behind these encounters. These weren't random animal behaviors but calculated attempts to separate and take her youngest son, Ben. The female creature that Sarah describes seemed to be mourning a lost child of her own, leading to questions about what these beings actually are and what they truly wanted with a human boy. The historical pattern Sarah uncovered in old newspaper archives—children vanishing in that exact area for decades—adds another layer of horror to her experience. Each disappearance left behind the same massive footprints that were always dismissed by authorities. Some reports even describe tall, hair-covered figures seen with smaller companions that looked almost, but not quite, human. Three years later, Ben still dreams about the "forest mommy" who called to him.At sixteen, he's drawn to wooded areas in ways that terrify his mother, and during a recent camping trip, teachers found him standing at the forest's edge at 3 AM, fully awake, listening to something only he could hear calling from the darkness.Sarah's story raises uncomfortable questions about the nature of these beings and their interest in our children. Are they simply animals operating on instinct? Or are they something more complex—intelligent enough to plan, patient enough to wait, and alien enough that we may never understand their true intentions?As always, I leave it to you to decide what you believe. But Sarah's warning bears repeating: if you ever hear a familiar voice calling from the darkness, especially if it sounds like someone you know is standing right beside you, don't answer. Some things that watch us from the forests have learned our voices, and they're very, very patient.Get Our FREE NewsletterGet Brian's Books Leave Us A VoicemailVisit Our WebsiteSupport Our SponsorsVisit Untold Radio AMBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/sasquatch-odyssey--4839697/support.

13 Elo 43min

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