Identity At The Center #44 - IDSA Report-Identity A Work In Progress

Join Jeff Steadman and Jim McDonald for the September 2025 mailbag episode of Identity at the Center! This episode features listener questions from around the world about digital identity, trust, technology challenges, inclusion, biometrics, and even a candid discussion on air travel etiquette. Whether you're new to IAM or a veteran, you'll find practical advice and real stories. Plus, hear shout-outs to our global community and learn what’s coming up for the podcast team, including conferences and game shows. Don’t forget to leave your thoughts or questions in the comments—let’s keep the conversation going!Chapter Timestamps:00:00 - Intro & Community Shout-Outs04:00 - Upcoming Conferences & Discount Codes07:00 - What the Podcast Is All About08:40 - Mailbag Intro: Listener Questions From Around the World09:20 - Engaging IT with IAM Concepts (Matt in Maine)13:20 - Building Trust in Digital Identity (Amara in India)18:30 - Practical Challenges for Large Programs (Sophie in France)25:45 - Digital Identity and the Unconnected (Jonas in Germany)33:15 - Biometric Data & Security Pros/Cons (Rachel in Canada)39:45 - Air Travel Etiquette: From Shoes Off to Elbow Room48:10 - Outro & ThanksConnect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.comKeywords:IDAC, Identity at the Center, Jeff Steadman, Jim McDonald, mailbag, listener questions, digital identity, IAM, identity and access management, trust, technology inclusion, biometrics, air travel etiquette, conferences, community, YouTube, podcast, global audience, #idac

22 Syys 1h 10min

This episode is sponsored by SGNL. Visit sgnl.ai/idac to learn more.In this sponsored episode of Identity at the Center podcast, hosts Jeff and Jim discuss hot trends in the identity space, focusing on continuous identity with their guest Erik Gustavson, co-founder and CPO at SGNL. Erik shares his journey into the IAM space, exploratory projects, the thought processes behind SGNL’s continuous identity solutions, and provides insights on how SGNL’s approach integrates with existing identity and security tools. He delves into trends such as the convergence of identity and security, the generational change in identity tech, and the practical use cases SGNL addresses. The episode concludes with a light-hearted conversation about the perfect meal for Jeff, reflecting Eric's passion for cooking.Connect with Erik: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erikgustavson/Learn more about SGNL: https://sgnl.ai/idacTimestamps00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview00:36 Sponsor Spotlight: SGNL01:10 Guest Introduction: Erik Gustavson01:41 Eric's Journey into the IAM Space05:47 Role of a Chief Product Officer07:54 The Concept of Continuous Identity20:26 Data Integration and Policy Enforcement26:40 Target Audience for SGNL29:42 Introduction to SGNL’s Ecosystem30:13 Complementing Existing Systems30:44 Challenges with Current Identity Solutions33:27 New Trends in Authorization Management34:09 Aligning with AMP and PBA37:58 Use Cases and Real-World Applications46:31 What Sets SGNL Apart48:37 Future Trends in Identity and Security52:35 A Lighter Note: Cooking and Personal Interests58:32 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsConnect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com

17 Syys 59min

In this episode of the Identity at the Center podcast, Jeff and Jim discuss various aspects of identity access management (IAM) policies and the importance of having a solid foundation. They emphasize the need for automation, controls, and how IAM policies should be created without technology limitations in mind. The discussion also covers the implementation challenges and the evolving concept of identity verification. Jeff, Jim, and their guest, Nishant Kaushik, the new CTO at the FIDO Alliance, also delve into the issues surrounding the adoption of passkeys, highlighted by Rusty Deaton’s IDPro article, and address some common concerns about their security. Nishant offers insights into ongoing work at FIDO Alliance, the potential of digital identity, and the importance of community in the identity sector. The episode concludes with mentions of upcoming conferences and an homage to the late identity expert, Andrew Nash.Timestamps00:00 Introduction and Greetings00:18 Importance of IAM Policies01:36 Challenges in Policy Implementation05:09 Conferences and Discount Codes07:59 Introducing the Guest: Nishant Kaushik08:42 The Role of the FIDO Alliance and Digital Identity10:35 Concerns and Solutions for Passkeys22:21 Final Thoughts on Passkeys and Authentication29:48 Credential Security Concerns30:03 FIDO Members and Their Contributions30:38 Getting Involved in Working Groups31:58 Conversations at Authenticate Conference32:29 Evolution of the Authenticate Conference34:32 Automotive Authentication Challenges36:04 Community and Collaboration38:33 Remembering Andrew Nash41:41 Lightning Round: Current State of AI and Identity44:21 Decentralized Identity: Current Trends49:47 Non-Human Identity: Future Perspectives52:19 New York Sports Fandom54:33 Conclusion and Upcoming EventsConnect with Nishant: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nishantkaushik/Learn more about the FIDO Alliance: https://fidoalliance.org/IDPro Article by Rusty Deaton: https://idpro.org/blackhat-and-def-con-2025-thoughts/Kill the Wallet? Rethinking the Metaphors Behind Digital Identity by Heather Flanagan: https://sphericalcowconsulting.com/2025/07/22/digital-wallet-metaphor/Connect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com

15 Syys 57min

In this episode of the Identity at the Center podcast, hosts Jeff and Jim engage in an insightful conversation with Darren Rolls, a veteran in the Identity and Access Management (IAM) field. They discuss the complexities of identity fabrics, the evolving landscape of IAM, the impact of AI, and the challenges of integrating new technologies with legacy systems. Darren shares his thoughts on upcoming trends, practical advice for IAM practitioners, and even his personal experience with kite surfing. Tune in to gain expert perspectives on the future of IAM and the significance of continuous learning and adaptation in this dynamic field.Connect with Darran: https://www.linkedin.com/in/darran-rolls/Identity Innovations Blog: https://identityinnovationlabs.com/identity-insights/Chapters00:00 Introduction and Casual Banter00:17 Discussing Identity Fabrics and Leadership Compass03:19 Upcoming Conferences and Events05:32 Interview with Darren Rolls: Identity Management Journey09:09 Evolution and Challenges in Identity Management24:41 Future of Identity Management and AI32:05 The Future of IAM in the Age of AI33:12 The Rise of Agent-Based Applications34:12 Challenges in Identity and Access Management35:31 Exploring Vibe Coding and AI Utilities38:09 Monitoring and Telemetry in IAM40:17 The Evolution of Identity Management42:05 The Role of Laws in IAM Architecture46:16 Balancing Legacy Systems with Future Innovations51:39 Kite Surfing Adventures and Reflections59:01 Closing Thoughts and Future EngagementsConnect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com

8 Syys 1h

Sponsored by Axonius. Visit https://www.axonius.com/idac to learn more.In this sponsored episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, hosts Jeff and Jim talk with Amir Ofek, the CEO of AxoniusX, about the company's innovative solutions in identity and access management (IAM). The discussion covers Amir's journey into IAM, the unique challenges of managing identities, and how AxoniusX's data-driven approach provides comprehensive visibility and intelligence. The episode breaks down various use cases, the importance of identity hygiene, automation of identity processes, and the newly recognized identity visibility and intelligence platform (IVIP) by Gartner.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview00:57 Guest Introduction: Amir, CEO of AxoniusX01:12 Amir's Journey into Identity Access Management02:40 Understanding Axonius and AxoniusX08:03 The Importance of Identity Visibility and Intelligence11:48 Challenges in Identity Management22:10 Axonius's Approach to Identity Visibility26:35 Leveraging AI and Machine Learning in Identity Management31:18 Understanding Permission Changes and Their Importance32:10 The Role of Observability in Axonius32:37 Driving Actions with Axonius33:30 Common Use Cases and Workflows35:19 Axonius as a Swiss Army Knife36:16 Ease of Use and AI Integration38:49 Starting with Axonius and Measuring Value43:42 Future Directions for Axonius49:49 The Identity Community and Upcoming Events51:23 Skiing Adventures and Tips57:54 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsConnect with Amir: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amirofek/Learn more about Axonius: https://www.axonius.com/idacConnect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com

3 Syys 59min

In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, hosts Jeff and Jim dive into the critical intersection of cloud security and identity and access management (IAM). They are joined by experts from RSM Justin Devine, Cloud Transformation Director, and Vaishnavi Vaidyanathan, Digital Identity Director, to discuss the challenges and strategies involved in explaining complex identity topics in business terms to executives. The conversation covers the integration of IAM with cloud initiatives, the importance of automation and governance, and actionable steps for improving cloud security and identity management. The episode also touches on the evolving role of identity in cybersecurity and offers practical advice for organizations undergoing cloud migrations.Connect with Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justindevine/Connect with Vaishnavi: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vaishnavi-vaidyanathan-6913072b/Learn more about RSM:Digital Identity consulting: https://rsmus.com/services/risk-fraud-cybersecurity/cybersecurity-business-vulnerability/identity-and-access.htmlSecure Cloud: https://rsmus.com/services/risk-fraud-cybersecurity/cybersecurity-business-vulnerability/secure-cloud.htmlCheck out more RSM & IDAC episodes: https://rsmus.com/insights/services/risk-fraud-cybersecurity/IDAC-podcast-featuring-RSMs-digital-identity-team.htmlChapters00:00 Introduction and Banter00:37 Explaining Identity in Business Speak04:03 Conference Season and Upcoming Events06:19 Intersection of Cloud Security and IAM07:05 Guest Introductions: Justin and Vaishnavi07:37 Vaishnav's Journey in Identity12:20 Justin's Background and Cloud Security14:32 Cloud and IAM Strategies29:28 Challenges in Identity Management30:09 Identity Orchestration and Cloud Transformation31:07 Modernizing Identity for Cloud Adoption33:03 Importance of Identity in Advanced Cloud Implementations37:28 Identity Security and Monitoring in the Cloud41:34 Practical Advice for Cloud and Identity Management53:23 Music Preferences and Final ThoughtsConnect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com

1 Syys 59min

Join Jeff and Jim in this special episode of the Identity at the Center podcast as they celebrate crossing 1 million downloads. The hosts share a major announcement, thank their supporters, and discuss the journey and future of the podcast. They also delve into the world of Identity and Access Management (IAM) with guest Anthony Viggiano, covering key topics such as access reviews, roles, data integration, and non-human identities. Anthony shares his insights on making access reviews effective, future-proofing IAM programs, and the pragmatic approaches to identity governance. Plus, learn about Anthony's passion for mountain biking and some tips for beginners. Don't miss this episode packed with valuable IAM insights and a momentous celebration!Timestamps:00:00 Introduction and Banter00:33 Major Milestone Announcement02:58 Upcoming Events and Conferences06:54 Guest Introduction: Anthony Viggiano09:48 Anthony's Journey into Identity11:08 Challenges in Identity Management12:24 Non-Human Identities and AI16:34 Access Reviews: Security Theater?24:08 Making Access Reviews Effective26:29 Effective Access Reviews: Overcoming Challenges29:29 Role-Based Access Control (RBAC) Insights32:29 Exploring Attribute-Based Access Control (ABAC)37:56 Centralizing Identity Governance45:47 Future-Proofing Identity Programs47:35 Mountain Biking: A Metaphor for Life54:54 Closing Thoughts and Community SupportConnect with Anthony: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthonyviggiano/Connect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com

25 Elo 56min

This episode is sponsored by P0 Security. Visit p0.dev/idac to learn why P0 is the easiest and fastest way to implement just-in-time, short-lived, and auditable access to your entire infrastructure stack, like servers, databases, Kubernetes clusters, cloud consoles, and cloud services, for users as well as non-human identities.In this sponsor spotlight episode, Jim and Jeff are joined by Shashwat Sehgal, CEO and founder of P0 Security, to discuss the evolving challenges of privileged access management in modern, cloud-native environments. Shashwat explains how traditional PAM solutions often create friction for developers, leading to over-provisioning and security risks, and how P0 is tackling this problem with a developer-first, just in time (JIT) access model. The conversation covers the core problems with developer productivity, how P0's use of technologies like eBPF provides deep visibility and control without agents, the "Priority Zero" philosophy, and how a JIT approach simplifies audits and compliance. They also discuss the competitive landscape and what sets P0 Security apart from traditional and open-source solutions.Learn more about P0: https://www.p0.dev/idacConnect with Shashwat: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shashwatsehgal/Chapter Timestamps:00:00 - Podcast Intro00:29 - Sponsor Introduction: P0 Security01:38 - What is the problem P0 Security is trying to solve?03:52 - Defining "Just-in-Time" (JIT) Access06:21 - The challenge with traditional PAM for developers08:23 - How P0 provides access without agents using eBPF12:15 - What does the user experience look like?15:58 - Supporting various infrastructure and access protocols19:15 - How does P0 handle session recording and auditing?22:20 - Is this a replacement for Privileged Access Management (PAM)?26:40 - The story behind the name P0 Security29:20 - Who is the ideal customer for P0?33:15 - Handling break-glass scenarios36:04 - Discussing the competitive landscape42:30 - How is P0 deployed? (Cloud vs. On-prem)46:50 - The future of P0 and the "Priority Zero" philosophy50:32 - Final thoughts: "Access is our priority zero."Connect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.comKeywords:P0 Security, Shashwat Sagal, Privileged Access Management, PAM, Just-in-Time Access, JIT, Developer Security, Cloud-Native Security, Hybrid Cloud, eBPF, Kubernetes, IAM, Identity and Access Management, Cybersecurity, Zero Trust, Ephemeral Access, Developer Experience, IDAC, Identity at the Center, Jeff Steadman, Jim McDonald

20 Elo 51min