DSP 119. Rethinking Design Consistency: Debating Tokens vs. Components with ADPs Alice Preisler
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DSP 119. Rethinking Design Consistency: Debating Tokens vs. Components with ADPs Alice Preisler

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Are components a necessary part of a design system? In this episode of The Design Systems Podcast, Alice Preisler, the Product Owner of Design System at ADP challenges the idea that all design systems start with a component library. Alice and host, Chris Strahl discuss what starting with documentation and design tokens instead of components might do for a design system and product teams. Alice shares her vision of using a linting tool to enforce design...

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DSP 126. Scaling Avalara's Design System to Support a Growth-By-Acquisition Strategy

DSP 126. Scaling Avalara's Design System to Support a Growth-By-Acquisition Strategy

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Many enterprise organizations face the challenge of scaling their design systems as the scope of product support expands through adoption and acquisition. In t...

21 Tammi 202526min

DSP 125. Inside H-E-B’s Digital Transformation: Adriana Morales on Design Systems That Empower Teams

DSP 125. Inside H-E-B’s Digital Transformation: Adriana Morales on Design Systems That Empower Teams

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In our first episode of 2025, Chris Strahl sits down with Adriana Morales, Design Principal at H-E-B, to explore the evolution, challenges, and triumphs of des...

7 Tammi 202537min

DSP 124. From Ideas to Impact: Chris Strahl and Evan Lovely on Five Years of Design Systems Innovation

DSP 124. From Ideas to Impact: Chris Strahl and Evan Lovely on Five Years of Design Systems Innovation

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In this special episode of the Design Systems Podcast, co-founders Chris Strahl and Evan Lovely celebrate five years of the podcast and reflect on their journe...

10 Joulu 202434min

DSP 123. Adoption, Efficiency, and Value: insights from KickstartDS’s Jonas Ulrich and Daniel Ley

DSP 123. Adoption, Efficiency, and Value: insights from KickstartDS’s Jonas Ulrich and Daniel Ley

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In this episode, Chris talks with Daniel Ley and Jonas Ulrich from KickstartDS, a framework designed to simplify design system creation and drive meaningful ad...

26 Marras 202427min

DSP 122. Creating Cohesion from Chaos: The Role of Language and System Design with Ben Callahan

DSP 122. Creating Cohesion from Chaos: The Role of Language and System Design with Ben Callahan

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Language shapes the way we think and structure the world we build. On this episode of The Design Systems Podcast, Chris Strahl sits down with Ben Callahan, co-...

12 Marras 202444min

DSP 121. The Intersection of Urban Planning and Design Systems: Insights from Andii Hei

DSP 121. The Intersection of Urban Planning and Design Systems: Insights from Andii Hei

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Explore the unique parallels between urban planning and design systems with Andii Hei. Discover how cities and digital landscapes share principles of structure...

29 Loka 202432min

DSP 120. From Designer to Design System Leader: Insights from Allison Shaw's Career Journey

DSP 120. From Designer to Design System Leader: Insights from Allison Shaw's Career Journey

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. On today's episode of The Design Systems Podcast, Allison Shaw, Director of Design at Adobe, shares insights from her expansive journey in design systems. From...

15 Loka 202433min