Mike Israetel Dishes on PED Use in MMA

Dr Mike Israetel is a sports physiologist, Brazilian jiu-jitsu brown belt, now former bodybuilder, YouTube personality and proprietor of Renaissance Periodization. In this conversation, he and I discuss why MMA training is catabolic, Jon Jones being an example of good MMA training protocol, how many fighters are actually using performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs), whether I should get on TRT and so much more.