Ep. 213 Building an OBL Within an IR/DR Group with Dr. Don Garbett and Dr. Nicholas Petruzzi

Ep. 213 Building an OBL Within an IR/DR Group with Dr. Don Garbett and Dr. Nicholas Petruzzi

Dr. Aparna Baheti talks with Nicholas Petruzzi and Donald Garbett about their experiences in building an office-based lab (OBL) within their existing IR/DR practices. Learn how they campaigned and collaborated to get their colleagues on board, and the unique challenges of building and operating an OBL. --- CHECK OUT OUR SPONSOR Boston Scientific Nextlab https://www.bostonscientific.com/en-US/nextlab.html?utm_source=oth_site&utm_medium=native&utm_campaign=pi-at-us-nextlab-hci&utm_content=n-backtable-n-backtable_site_nextlab_1&cid=n10008040 --- SHOW NOTES In this episode, host Dr. Ally Baheti interviews interventional radiologists Dr. Nick Petruzzi and Dr. Don Garbett about their own experiences with pitching and building an office-based lab (OBL) within their existing practices. First, each doctor describes how they arrived at the idea of an OBL. For Dr. Garbett, the main motivation was a drive to follow up with patients. On the other hand, Dr. Petruzzi was frustrated by the lack of adequate equipment and bureaucratic steps that his hospital required him to follow to request more equipment. Next, we shift to a discussion about how each of them got their practice partners to philosophically and financially buy into the OBL idea. Both doctors wrote and presented pro formas to delineate the net benefits. Additionally, Dr. Petruzzi proved that an OBL would be profitable by doing a few cases with trial periods for different C-arms. Dr. Garbett worked with his practice’s revenue cycle manager and accountant to verify his financial projections. Both emphasize the importance of group culture and the value of colleagues who are open-minded to expansion. Finally, we talk about unforeseen obstacles that have risen on their OBL journeys so far. Dr. Petruzzi describes his conversations with hospital systems, in which he had to advocate for IRs to be listed as referring doctors. Dr. Garbett cites concerns about billing and coding, which can be very complex for a third-party group to handle. We end with updates from each guest about the current status of their OBL and their next steps. --- RESOURCES Vascular Institute of Atlantic Medical Imaging: https://www.vi-ami.com/ Radiology Associates: https://www.rapc.com/

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Ep. 554 Optimizing the IR/DR Curriculum and Experience with Dr. Gregg Khodorov and Dr. Nicole Lamparello

Ep. 554 Optimizing the IR/DR Curriculum and Experience with Dr. Gregg Khodorov and Dr. Nicole Lamparello

So you’re going to be an IR resident–what exactly did you sign up for? Find out with Dr. Neil Jain, an integrated IR resident at Georgetown as he hosts a discussion on optimizing integrated IR residency programs with Dr. Nicole Lamparello, an Assistant Professor of Clinical Radiology at Weill Cornell Medicine, and Dr. Gregg Khodorov, a PGY-5 resident at Thomas Jefferson University Hospital. The conversation covers a comprehensive range of topics, including optimal rotation schedules, early IR exposure, consult services, and the benefits of structured clinics. --- This podcast is supported by:Medtronic Emprinthttps://www.medtronic.com/emprint --- SYNPOSIS The doctors first discuss the nuances of choosing a surgical, medicine, or transitional intern year, and the electives that best prepare junior trainees for a career in IR. They then discuss the optimal balance between diagnostic and interventional training in DR years, and the best way to keep junior trainees involved in IR throughout their residency. The conversation moves on to the different structures of the consult service at each of the speakers’ programs and what this means for training quality and patient care. The doctors then break down what the last year of IR residency looks like, and the residents detail what they would like to see in order to prepare best for attending life. They explore exposure to private practice, subspecialty clinic, and elective time; sharing innovative practices from their own institutions and emphasizing the importance of mentorship, integration, and resident retention. The episode also addresses the challenges and potential solutions for resident attrition within the integrated IR residency track. --- TIMESTAMPS 0:00 - Host Introductions3:34 - PGY1: Medicine, Surgery or Transitional Intern Year?15:41 - PGY2-PGY4: Diagnostic Radiology Years24:46 - IR Clinic Training Throughout IR/DR Curriculum27:49 - IR Consult Service Structure38:23 - PGY5: Credentialing in Nuclear Medicine and Mammography43:58 - PGY6: Preparing for Attending Life53:00 - Minimizing Attrition Rate

27 Kesä 1h 5min

Ep. 553 Dosimetry University Part II: Understanding Partition and Voxel-Based Approaches with Dr. Tyler Sandow and Dr. Nima Kokabi

Ep. 553 Dosimetry University Part II: Understanding Partition and Voxel-Based Approaches with Dr. Tyler Sandow and Dr. Nima Kokabi

BSA, MIRD, or voxel-based dosimetry? Join us for part 2 of Dosimetry University where interventional oncologists Dr. Tyler Sandow, Dr. Nima Kokabi, and Dr. Kavi Krishnasamy explore and debate the critical nuances of a successful Y90 procedure, covering dosing methods, lung shunt management, and when to incorporate other therapeutic approaches. --- This podcast is supported by: Sirtexhttps://www.sirtex.com/ Medtronic Emprinthttps://www.medtronic.com/emprint --- SYNPOSIS The episode begins with a discussion on methodologies for calculating lung shunt fractions using planar imaging versus SPECT CT. The physicians highlight the implications of various dosimetry models, including BSA (Body Surface Area), MIRD (Medical Internal Radiation Dose), and voxel-based dosimetry for determining prescribed activity. Drawing on their clinical experience, they address the management of high lung shunt fraction cases and the application of therapeutic strategies like TACE (Transarterial Chemoembolization) and SBRT (Stereotactic Body Radiotherapy). The conversation also covers the roles of cryoablation and microwave ablation in treating centrally located lesions. The episode concludes with a case study emphasizing the importance of individualized dosimetry planning. --- TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Introduction01:05 - Lung Shunt Calculation Methods06:42 - BSA, MIRD, and Voxel-Based Dosimetry16:03 - High Lung Shunt Management30:02 - Case Study: Liver Tumor Treatment34:10 - Cryo vs Microwave: A Safer Option?35:42 - Y-90 Procedure: Imaging and Techniques43:35 - Dosimetry and Dose Calculations51:10 - Post-Treatment Analysis and Outcomes57:51 - Transplant Considerations and Aggressive Treatments58:18 - Conclusion and Final Thoughts

24 Kesä 1h 1min

Ep. 552 Dosimetry University Part I: Treatment Planning with Dr. Tyler Sandow and Dr. Nima Kokabi

Ep. 552 Dosimetry University Part I: Treatment Planning with Dr. Tyler Sandow and Dr. Nima Kokabi

Dosimetry University is now in session! First up—how do you plan your Y90 treatments and what can you do in the planning phase to maximize efficacy? Find out in Part I of BackTable’s Dosimetry University series featuring interventional oncologists Dr. Nima Kokabi from the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill and Dr. Tyler Sandow from Ochsner Health. This episode is hosted by Dr. Kavi Krishnasamy and recorded live in the BackTable studio. --- This podcast is supported by: Sirtexhttps://www.sirtex.com/ Sponsor This podcast is supported by: Medtronic Emprinthttps://www.medtronic.com/emprint --- SYNPOSIS The doctors first discuss the structure of their Y90 service lines, including the impact of multidisciplinary tumor boards and clinics on time to treatment for liver cancer patients. They then talk through their technical preferences—whether to use glass or resin, preferred dosimetry guidelines and apps, and the dosimetry softwares that they use in treatment planning. The doctors also discuss the utility of the T2N ratio, advanced imaging like cone beam CT, and angiographic targeting software—emphasizing how these tools can help achieve the delicate balance of preserving normal tissue while treating as much tumor as possible. This episode also highlights the importance of collaboration between academic and private practices to optimize patient care and treatment outcomes. --- TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Introduction and Overview02:21 - Multidisciplinary Clinics and Tumor Boards13:12 - Dosimetry Guidelines and Practices27:46 - Nuances in Tumor Dosage and Segmentectomy32:00 - Angiographic Targeting Software33:18 - Cone Beam CT Techniques48:33 - Anesthesia, Access, and Catheters

17 Kesä 55min

Ep. 551 Independent IR Practice: Opportunities and Challenges with Dr. Waqaar Diwan

Ep. 551 Independent IR Practice: Opportunities and Challenges with Dr. Waqaar Diwan

What would you do if your IR/DR practice underwent major ownership and staffing changes just one week after signing your first attending contract? In this episode of BackTable, Dr. Waqaar Diwan joins host Dr. Michael Barraza to share his experience facing exactly that challenge—and how it led to the eventual development of his own independent IR practice.---This podcast is supported by:RADPAD® Radiation Protectionhttps://www.radpad.com/OBL Marketinghttps://oblmarketing.com/Medtronic Emprinthttps://www.medtronic.com/emprint---SYNPOSISDr. Diwan discusses how he navigated the unexpected transition of ownership and staffing changes, and ultimately secured a hospital contract that allowed him to perform IR procedures full-time. Since then, he has been building an independent IR practice with the support of his partner and a growing team. Dr. Diwan shares his goals for the practice, including staffing and equipment logistics, strategic planning, and patient outreach. He emphasizes the importance of leveraging personal and professional networks to guide his business development. He also outlines key differences between independent IR practices and combined IR/DR models. These include the need for greater investment in the outpatient experience, actively seeking referrals, and navigating hospital politics without the backing of a larger department. His top advice for building a referral base is to first earn trust—by excelling in straightforward cases and ensuring strong outcomes—and to market the practice directly to potential referring providers. Overall, Dr. Diwan encourages early-career interventional radiologists to know their worth. He notes that in the real world, IRs are often seen as providers of “catch-all” services, making it crucial to ensure fair compensation. He stresses the importance of striking a balance between self-advocacy and humility, all while staying focused on serving patients.---TIMESTAMPS00:00 - Introduction 01:42 - Navigating Contracts and Restructuring8:07 - Upcoming Goals for His IR Group14:00 - Strategic Planning and Marketing20:16 - Compensation and Finances of Independent IR27:38 - Future Plans and Market Trends29:48 Advice for New Interventional Radiologists---RESOURCESMinimally Invasive Specialists of Texas: https://www.mist-health.com/

10 Kesä 36min

Ep. 550 Percutaneous Transesophageal Gastrostomy: Indications and Procedure Insights with Lisa Rotellini-Coltvet and Dr. Alex Wallace

Ep. 550 Percutaneous Transesophageal Gastrostomy: Indications and Procedure Insights with Lisa Rotellini-Coltvet and Dr. Alex Wallace

What do you do when conventional gastric tubes are not an option? In this week’s episode of BackTable, host Dr. Ally Baheti speaks with interventional radiologist Dr. Alex Wallace and physician assistant Lisa Rotellini-Colvet from the Mayo Clinic in Arizona about the percutaneous transesophageal gastrostomy (PTEG) procedure. The discussion explores how PTEG offers a transformative solution for patients who are not candidates for traditional transabdominal gastrostomy access. Suitable candidates for PTEG include individuals with malignancies, peritoneal carcinomatosis, prior gastrectomies, or ascites. --- This podcast is supported by: Medtronic Emprinthttps://www.medtronic.com/emprint --- SYNPOSIS Dr. Wallace and Lisa provide valuable insights on the benefits of early patient selection, thorough pre-procedural evaluation, step-by-step procedural guidance, and key considerations for post-procedural care. They also highlight the critical role of patient and staff education in achieving successful outcomes. The episode features real-world experiences, including a powerful story of a patient who benefited from her PTEG for over 560 days. Our guests advocate for increased awareness of PTEG and its early consideration in patients with advanced abdominal cancers, emphasizing its potential to greatly improve quality of life. --- TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Introduction01:38 - History and Explanation of PTEG08:12 - Pre-Procedure Evaluation11:48 - Procedural Walkthrough20:46 - Post-Procedure Care and Suction Management24:45 - Exchange Process and Troubleshooting30:11 - Patient Education and Staff Training35:54 - Improved Quality of Life for Patients --- RESOURCES Percutaneous Transesophageal Gastrostomy: Procedural Technique and Outcomes (Rotellini-Coltvet, Wallace et al, 2023):https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37419279/

6 Kesä 41min

Ep. 549 Liquid Embolics: Practical Applications and Techniques with Dr. Gary Siskin

Ep. 549 Liquid Embolics: Practical Applications and Techniques with Dr. Gary Siskin

Liquid embolics are a relatively new addition to the interventional radiology toolkit—how well do you understand the technical considerations that come with using these agents? Get up to speed in this episode of the BackTable Podcast where Dr. Gary Siskin, Chair of Radiology at Albany Medical Center, shares his expertise. --- This podcast is supported by: Sirtexhttps://www.sirtex.com/us/ --- SYNPOSIS Dr. Siskin provides expert insights into the use of liquid embolic agents, including Onyx and LAVA, with a focus on their practical applications, techniques for safe and effective deployment, and the critical role they play in treating complex cases which range from peripheral and traumatic hemorrhage to portal vein embolization. He highlights the importance of understanding the viscosity and flow characteristics of various liquid embolic agents, providing expert guidance on ensuring optimal catheter positioning, case selection, and avoidance of common pitfalls. Additionally, he shares strategies for tailoring injection speed based on vessel caliber to mitigate reflux. The episode ends with final thoughts on best practices and future directions for the technology. --- TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Introduction02:09 - Historical Perspective on Liquid Embolics06:37 - Practical Applications and Techniques16:14 - Handling Catheters and Reflux Concerns22:38 - Trauma Embolization26:53 - Visibility and Injection Techniques29:06 - Catheter Compatibility and Vessel Size32:53 - Best Practices and Common Mistakes45:55 - Final Thoughts and Advice --- RESOURCES Arslan B, Razavi MK, Siskin G, et al. The LAVA Study: A Prospective, Multicenter, Single-Arm Study of a Liquid Embolic System for Treatment of Peripheral Arterial Hemorrhage. J Vasc Interv Radiol. 2025;36(3):436-445.e2. doi:10.1016/j.jvir.2024.11.005 Onyx Liquid Embolic System: https://europe.medtronic.com/xd-en/healthcare-professionals/products/cardiovascular/peripheral-embolization/onyx-liquid-embolic-system.html LAVA Liquid Embolic System:https://www.sirtex.com/us/products/lava-liquid-embolic-system/product-information/

3 Kesä 50min

Ep. 548 Winding Down Neuwave: Impact on Interventional Radiology with Dr. Joshua Kuban

Ep. 548 Winding Down Neuwave: Impact on Interventional Radiology with Dr. Joshua Kuban

It’s official — NeuWave is exiting the market. In this episode, Dr. Christopher Beck hosts a conversation with Dr. Josh Kuban, an interventional radiologist at MD Anderson Cancer Center, to discuss the impact that NeuWave's microwave tumor ablation technology has had on the field of interventional oncology and the recent announcement of its discontinuation, scheduled for March 2026. --- This podcast is supported by: Medtronic Emprint --- SYNPOSIS Dr. Kuban reflects on NeuWave’s innovative beginnings in microwave ablation, which expanded to include four distinct systems and advanced ablation confirmation software. At its peak, the company held over 50% of the microwave ablation market and played a pivotal role in reshaping interventional radiology's view of the safety and effectiveness of this treatment approach. He also shares how NeuWave’s departure will affect his practice and outlines the steps he’s taking to prepare his team for the transition to alternative devices. The discussion broadens to the current landscape of microwave ablation, spotlighting emerging players in ablation confirmation software and robotic technologies. --- TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Introduction2:14 - Overview of Neuwave’s Rise7:01 - Decision to Discontinue 14:56 - Navigating the Switch Different Technologies 21:54 - Buyback Program24:33 - Forecasting New Developments --- RESOURCES BackTable IND Ep. 23- Approach the Problem with Vision: Part I of the Neuwave Story : https://www.backtable.com/shows/industry/podcasts/23/approach-the-problem-with-vision-part-i-of-the-neuwave-story BackTable IND Ep. 24- Trials and Tribulations: Part II of the Neuwave Story: https://www.backtable.com/shows/industry/podcasts/24/trials-tribulations-part-ii-of-the-neuwave-story BackTable IND Ep. 25- Next Level Stuff, the Exit: Part III of the Neuwave Story:https://www.backtable.com/shows/industry/podcasts/25/next-level-stuff-the-exit-part-iii-of-the-neuwave-story Johnson & Johnson Press Release Regarding Discontinuation of NeuWave:https://www.medline.com/media/assets/pdf/vendor-list/Disco_notice.pdfMedTronic Emprint Ablation: https://www.medtronic.com/covidien/en-gb/products/ablation-systems/emprint-ablation-system.html Varian MicroThermX Ablation: https://www.varian.com/products/interventional-oncology/microthermx Safety and Effectiveness of Microwave Ablation of Liver Tumors: Initial Real-World Results from the Multinational NeuWave Observational Liver Ablation (NOLA) Registry (Odisio, 2025):https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39848330/

30 Touko 31min

Ep. 547 Intratumoral Oncolytic Treatments for Metastatic Melanoma: A Multidisciplinary Approach with Dr. Riad Salem and Dr. Sunandana Chandra

Ep. 547 Intratumoral Oncolytic Treatments for Metastatic Melanoma: A Multidisciplinary Approach with Dr. Riad Salem and Dr. Sunandana Chandra

Making strides against melanoma: how can medical oncologists and interventional oncologists join forces to deliver smarter, patient-centered care? In this episode of BackTable, Dr. Tyler Sandow,hosts Dr. Sunandana Chandra, medical oncologist at Northwestern, and Dr. Riad Salem, interventional oncologist at Northwestern, to discuss the evolving management of advanced melanoma. --- This podcast is supported by an educational grant from Replimune. --- SYNPOSIS The doctors open the episode with an overview of melanoma and recent advances in its treatment, highlighting key trials such as DREAMseq and CheckMate 067. The discussion explores the shift from medical oncologist as solo primary providers to a dynamic, multidisciplinary approach to advanced cancer care—emphasizing cutting-edge treatments like immunotherapy and intratumoral oncolytic viruses. Dr. Salem shares practical insights on the procedural techniques of administering intratumoral oncolytics like Replimune, emphasizing the importance of thorough documentation and patient-centered care. The doctors also provide an overview of the ongoing IGNYTE-3 Trial, a Phase 3 study assessing the safety and efficacy of the oncolytic immunotherapy RP1 in combination with nivolumab for the treatment of advanced melanoma. The episode underscores the transformative potential of innovative melanoma treatments and the crucial role of integrated, team-based approaches in improving cancer patient outcomes. --- TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Introduction03:48 - The Evolution of Melanoma Treatment: From Chemotherapy to Immunotherapy14:05 - The Role of Oncolytic Viruses in Melanoma Treatment20:14 - Interventional Radiology’s Role in Cancer Treatment27:00 - Collaborative Approach to Cancer Care32:53 - Hyper Documentation and Communication Efficiency44:47 - Future of Intratumoral Oncolytics48:10 - Multidisciplinary Approach in Advanced Cancer Management51:46 - Conclusion and Final Thoughts --- RESOURCES DREAMseq Trial: Atkins MB, Lee SJ, Chmielowski B, et al. Combination Dabrafenib and Trametinib Versus Combination Nivolumab and Ipilimumab for Patients With Advanced BRAF-Mutant Melanoma: The DREAMseq Trial-ECOG-ACRIN EA6134. J Clin Oncol. 2023;41(2):186-197. doi:10.1200/JCO.22.01763 CheckMate 067 trial: Wolchok JD, Chiarion-Sileni V, Rutkowski P, et al. Final, 10-Year Outcomes with Nivolumab plus Ipilimumab in Advanced Melanoma. N Engl J Med. 2025;392(1):11-22. doi:10.1056/NEJMoa2407417

27 Touko 54min

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