"I Do Believe Ethereum Will Flip Bitcoin in the Next Four Years:” Balancer's Fernando Martinelli

"I Do Believe Ethereum Will Flip Bitcoin in the Next Four Years:” Balancer's Fernando Martinelli

In this week’s episode, I speak with Illia Polosukhin, cofounder of the Near Protocol and Fernando Martinelli, co-founder and CEO of Balancer Labs. Near is one of the up and coming Layer 1 chains, Balancer is a prominent DeFi protocol and application on Ethereum that will now also be on Near and other blockchains. As for Near being labeled an “Ethereum Killer” Illia says Near is “not trying to kill anybody.” He thinks finance is just a stepping stone for all the use cases enabled by blockchains and that Near can be the place where those consumer apps are built. Fernando says DeFi will live on many different Layer 1s, but he sees the space expanding into less than 10, not hundreds of chains. He remains very bullish on Ethereum and is betting on a flippening with Bitcoin in the near future, which Illia agreed would be “totally possible.”

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Rebuilding Global Payments with Stablecoins | Circle & USDC with Nikhil Chandhok

Rebuilding Global Payments with Stablecoins | Circle & USDC with Nikhil Chandhok

Stablecoins have quietly become the most successful use case in crypto.In this episode, Nikhil Chandhok, Chief Product & Technology Officer at Circle, explains why USDC is more than a digital dollar —...

6 Helmi 45min

Crypto’s Point of No Return: Institutions are Finally Here, with Brett Tejpaul

Crypto’s Point of No Return: Institutions are Finally Here, with Brett Tejpaul

2025 marked a turning point for crypto.In this episode, Brett Tejpaul, head of Coinbase Institutional, sits down with Camila Russo to explain why institutional adoption accelerated last year. From ETF...

4 Helmi 49min

Why OG DeFi Failed | Kain Warwick, Founder of Synthetix

Why OG DeFi Failed | Kain Warwick, Founder of Synthetix

Kain Warwick—DeFi OG and founder of Synthetix and Infinex—is back on The Defiant Podcast with Camila Russo for a no-BS conversation at a pivotal moment: Infinex just ran its INX token sale and is head...

30 Tammi 54min

Ethereum is for Institutions: Danny Ryan Says Tokenization Isn't Enough

Ethereum is for Institutions: Danny Ryan Says Tokenization Isn't Enough

In this interview, Camila Russo sits down with Danny Ryan — former Ethereum Foundation researcher and a key leader behind Ethereum’s shift to proof of stake — now Co-Founder & President at Etherealize...

29 Tammi 26min

How Stablecoins Are Rewiring Global Payments | Borderless CPO Alex Garn

How Stablecoins Are Rewiring Global Payments | Borderless CPO Alex Garn

In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, Chris Storaker sits down with Alex Garn, Chief Product Officer at Borderless, to unpack how stablecoins are quietly transforming cross-border payments — and wha...

9 Tammi 25min

The Rise of the Fan Economy | Consumer Crypto | Avalanche Ecosystems Ep. 4

The Rise of the Fan Economy | Consumer Crypto | Avalanche Ecosystems Ep. 4

For consumer crypto to thrive it needs to embrace financialization to deliver a better experience, and maker sure crypto disappears everywhere else. Projects doing this right sit in an emerging sector...

5 Tammi 18min

Uniswap is about to “turn on the switch.” with Hayden Adams

Uniswap is about to “turn on the switch.” with Hayden Adams

In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, Uniswap founder Hayden Adams joins us right as the UNIfication (Unification) proposal has moved to a final governance vote—a sweeping plan from Uniswap Labs + t...

22 Joulu 20251h 8min

Ethereum’s “HTTP Moment” with Marissa Posner & Yoav Weiss

Ethereum’s “HTTP Moment” with Marissa Posner & Yoav Weiss

In this episode of The Defiant podcast, Camila Russo sits down in Buenos Aires (Devconnect) with Marissa Foster (Product, Ethereum Foundation) and Yoav Weiss (security researcher, Ethereum Foundation)...

19 Joulu 202540min