309 - Jacob Howland - Technological Cannibalism

309 - Jacob Howland - Technological Cannibalism

I had an amazing discussion with Jacob Howland about the fundamental question of technology. We investigate from both the Biblical and ancient Greek perspectives what technology is and its effects on the human spirit.
We discuss the notion of memory and recollection, Plato’s Phaedrus, the Biblical notion of garments of skin, ChatGPT and AI, work and leisure, technology’s effects on human capabilities, paganism and idolatry, intelligence, and “the matrix”, the internet, intuition, and much more.

Jacob Howland is the Provost and Director of the Intellectual Foundations Program at UATX, commonly known as the University of Austin.
His latest book is Glaucon's Fate: History, Myth, and Character in Plato's Republic (Paul Dry Books, 2018): https://www.amazon.com/Glaucons-Fate-History-Character-Republic/dp/1589881346

Jacob Howland’s website: https://www.jacobhowland.com/
His articles on Unherd: https://unherd.com/author/jacob-howlandunherd-com/

YouTube version of this podcast: https://youtu.be/o468OtytbVQ

Timestamps:
00:00 - Coming up
01:02 - Intro music
01:28 - Introduction
01:59 - Different narratives about technology
04:09 - Technology from the Greek perspective
05:01 - Plato's Phaedra - and fixing words
08:16 - Egypt
09:29 - Suppressing recollection
11:13 - The garments of skin
15:02 - Work - sorting chaos
18:17 - Human capabilities diminishing
19:53 - ChatGPT cannibalizes itself
22:06 - A pagan god that feeds on humans
23:52 - Human batteries
26:03 - Intuition - direct access to reality
28:49 - What do we mean by intelligence?
30:47 - Understand AI as idolatry
32:19 - The gold of the golden calf
34:53 - The tabernacle
35:33 - A body of power
37:39 - card: Beasts in Revelation
39:16 - Work and leisure
47:45 - Monastic life and leisure
49:18 - Not anti-technology
50:54 - The Henry Adams curve
56:56 - The Beast kills the whore
1:00:17 - Plato's cave
1:01:19 - There is no "solution"
1:03:24 - Prometheus’ cycle of desire
1:05:58 - The flip side of all of this
1:10:15 - Paradise Lost
1:11:09 - The need for transcendence
1:12:26 - Re-engage at the human scale

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273 - Why We Venerate Images

273 - Why We Venerate Images

Recently there's been some online debate about icons and the veneration of icons. In this podcast episode, I try to take a step back to show the deeper reason why icons are important in the thrust and fullness of God's revelation. - Original video: https://youtu.be/bSo3ThY9D0M - The Symbolic World website and blog: www.thesymbolicworld.com - Merch: www.thesymbolicworld.store - Language of Creation, by Matthieu Pageau: www.amazon.com/Language-Creation…ook/dp/B07D738HD8 Support this podcast: - Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ - Patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos - Subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau - Paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: - Unofficial Facebook discussion group: www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ - The Symbolic World Reddit: www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: - Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld - Twitter: www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan - Instagram: www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. My website designers, Anomalist Design: www.anomalistdesign.com/

3 Helmi 202329min

272 - Brandon Dayton - Green Monk

272 - Brandon Dayton - Green Monk

I sit down with Brandon Dayton, an artist who wrote a beautiful and interesting comic book called Green Monk. We discuss his work and inspiration. Green Monk: Blood of the Martyrs by Brandon Dayton: https://www.amazon.com/Green-Monk-Martyrs-Brandon-Dayton/dp/1534308318 - Original video: https://youtu.be/zA7CSppNhFA - The Symbolic World website and blog: www.thesymbolicworld.com - Merch: www.thesymbolicworld.store - Language of Creation, by Matthieu Pageau: www.amazon.com/Language-Creation…ook/dp/B07D738HD8 Support this podcast: - Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ - Patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos - Subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau - Paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: - Unofficial Facebook discussion group: www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ - The Symbolic World Reddit: www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: - Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld - Twitter: www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan - Instagram: www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau My website designers, Anomalist Design: www.anomalistdesign.com/

27 Tammi 202332min

271 - The Plagues Of Egypt

271 - The Plagues Of Egypt

Exodus 5-10. In light of my participation in Jordan Peterson's Exodus Seminar, I'm continuing with my own commentary on Exodus. This is part 3 where we cover primarily the 10 plagues of Egypt and the symbolic pattern they embody. Part 1: Slaves in Egypt: Exodus 1-2: https://youtu.be/3mbZYgZfHo4 Part 2: The Burning Bush: Exodus 3-4: https://youtu.be/xG72lKeQ5SY Make sure to head to Daily Wire: https://www.dailywire.com/show/exodus - St. Gregory of Nyssa, The Life of Moses: https://www.amazon.com/Gregory-Nyssa-Classics-Western-Spirituality/dp/0809121123 - The Surprising Symbolism of 666: https://youtu.be/qM_kQjpAK6g - Jordan B Peterson Podcast, The Language of Creation | Matthieu Pageau: https://youtu.be/8R-vkbxX8r4 ======== - Original video: https://youtu.be/Z4Jf4QmMlg0 - The Symbolic World website and blog: www.thesymbolicworld.com - Merch: www.thesymbolicworld.store - Language of Creation, by Matthieu Pageau: www.amazon.com/Language-Creation…ook/dp/B07D738HD8 Support this podcast: - Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ - Patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos - Subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau - Paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: - Unofficial Facebook discussion group: www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ - The Symbolic World Reddit: www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: - Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld - Twitter: www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan - Instagram: www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. My website designers, Anomalist Design: www.anomalistdesign.com/

24 Tammi 202353min

270 - Luxury - Parallel Love

270 - Luxury - Parallel Love

I interviewed Fr. Christopher Foley, Fr. James Bozeman and Fr. David Bozeman, three Orthodox priests who are also in a rock band called Luxury. They started Luxury in the 90s but have since started making music again, released an album in 2019 and are working on a new one. We discuss their story, their music and approach to art, how to reconcile secular art with the sacred, their influences and creative process and more. Enjoy. Parallel Love documentary: https://www.parallel-love.com/#home Luxury - Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/7yq7K7eTfe1N8eQhKW2CdH?si=cxN0YhKQTduxXh8LiaAeNw&nd=1 ========= - Original video: https://youtu.be/zD8O8NlPu4U - The Symbolic World website and blog: www.thesymbolicworld.com - Merch: www.thesymbolicworld.store - Language of Creation, by Matthieu Pageau: www.amazon.com/Language-Creation…ook/dp/B07D738HD8 Support this podcast: - Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ - Patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos - Subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau - Paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: - Unofficial Facebook discussion group: www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ - The Symbolic World Reddit: www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: - Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld - Twitter: www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan - Instagram: www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. My website designers, Anomalist Design: www.anomalistdesign.com/

12 Tammi 202350min

269 - John Vervaeke - After Socrates

269 - John Vervaeke - After Socrates

John Vervaeke will release a new YouTube series called After Socrates, that’ll premiere on 9th January 2023 and then release two episodes per week. In this podcast episode we talk about what his series will be about, Socrates, Plato, mythos and knowledge, how our work intersect and differ, higher consciousness and much more. John Vervaeke's New Series: After Socrates | Premieres January 9th, 2023: https://youtu.be/1aeD1-brsdc ======== - Original video: https://youtu.be/wr6ELWVO8_E - The Symbolic World website and blog: www.thesymbolicworld.com - Merch: www.thesymbolicworld.store - Language of Creation, by Matthieu Pageau: www.amazon.com/Language-Creation…ook/dp/B07D738HD8 Support this podcast: - Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ - Patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos - Subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau - Paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: - Unofficial Facebook discussion group: www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ - The Symbolic World Reddit: www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: - Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld - Twitter: www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan - Instagram: www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. My website designers, Anomalist Design: www.anomalistdesign.com/

4 Tammi 20231h 6min

268 - Christopher Mastropietro - Into A New World

268 - Christopher Mastropietro - Into A New World

I sat down with Christopher Mastropietro, a trained philosopher who has been working with John Vervaeke on various projects. They wrote a book together called ‘Zombies in Western Culture: A Twenty-First Century Crisis’ and Chris is currently helping John to turn his Meaning Crisis lecture series into a book. In our conversation we discuss how these ideas about symbolism in a postmodern world are changing our culture, what the new world will look like and what it takes to get there. We also talk more generally about growth and repentance, breakdown, grace, academia VS this online world, our upcoming projects, and the process of doing creative work. - Zombies in Western Culture: A Twenty-First Century Crisis, by John Vervaeke (Author), Christopher Mastropietro (Author), Filip Miscevic (Author): https://www.amazon.com/Zombies-Western-Culture-Twenty-First-Century/dp/178374328X/ -Article: Love in the Time of Covid, by Christopher Mastropietro: https://medium.com/@CJMastropietro/love-in-the-time-of-covid-4f9f69bce94e ======= - Original video: https://youtu.be/o2IgD5cv9Vo - The Symbolic World website and blog: www.thesymbolicworld.com - Merch: www.thesymbolicworld.store - Language of Creation, by Matthieu Pageau: www.amazon.com/Language-Creation…ook/dp/B07D738HD8 Support this podcast: - Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ - Patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos - Subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau - Paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: - Unofficial Facebook discussion group: www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ - The Symbolic World Reddit: www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: - Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld - Twitter: www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan - Instagram: www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. My website designers, Anomalist Design: www.anomalistdesign.com/

31 Joulu 20221h 19min

267 - Luke Burgis - Revenge of the Scapegoat

267 - Luke Burgis - Revenge of the Scapegoat

I talk with Luke Burgis, an author and expert of René Girard. He's written a book called 'Wanting: the Power of Mimetic Desire in Everyday Life'. Today we discuss Girard, the problem and solution of sacrifice, Christianity, desire and rivalry, our modern concern for victims after the World Wars, the formation of Antichrist, cancel culture and more. Enjoy. Luke Burgis' book, 'Wanting: the Power of Mimetic Desire in Everyday Life': https://www.amazon.com/Wanting-Power-Mimetic-Desire-Everyday/dp/1250262488/ Luke's Substack: https://read.lukeburgis.com/ Luke's website and newsletter: https://lukeburgis.com/ ========== - Original video: https://youtu.be/fItOlHFQHbw - The Symbolic World website and blog: www.thesymbolicworld.com - Merch: www.thesymbolicworld.store - Language of Creation, by Matthieu Pageau: www.amazon.com/Language-Creation…ook/dp/B07D738HD8 Support this podcast: - Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ - Patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos - Subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau - Paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: - Unofficial Facebook discussion group: www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ - The Symbolic World Reddit: www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: - Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld - Twitter: www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan - Instagram: www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. My website designers, Anomalist Design: www.anomalistdesign.com/

23 Joulu 20221h 14min

266 - Richard Rohlin - Universal History: Anglo-Saxon Myths and the Origin of Fairies

266 - Richard Rohlin - Universal History: Anglo-Saxon Myths and the Origin of Fairies

This is the first episode of a series of discussions about Anglo–Saxon myths and their role in the Universal History. Books mentions: - Apocalypse of Pseudo-Methodius: An Alexandrian World Chronicle (Dumbarton Oaks Medieval Library): https://www.amazon.com/Apocalypse-Alexandrian-Chronicle-Dumbarton-Medieval/dp/0674053079 - Syriac work called The Cave of Treasures, translated by Sebastian Brock (Early Christian/late Jewish traditions preserved in Syrian. Gives a good framework for reading St. Ephrem the Syrian) Richard Rohlin’s work: - Finding the Golden Key book project: https://findingthegoldenkey.com/?page_id=78 - Darkly Bright Press - Akboritha: https://darklybrightpress.com/akboritha/ - Amboria: Roleplaying in the World Under Starlight: https://strangeowlgames.com/amboria/ ==================== - Original video: https://youtu.be/VqjUNiU6TBA - The Symbolic World website and blog: www.thesymbolicworld.com - Merch: www.thesymbolicworld.store - Language of Creation, by Matthieu Pageau: www.amazon.com/Language-Creation…ook/dp/B07D738HD8 Support this podcast: - Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ - Patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos - Subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau - Paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: - Unofficial Facebook discussion group: www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ - The Symbolic World Reddit: www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: - Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld - Twitter: www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan - Instagram: www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. My website designers, Anomalist Design: www.anomalistdesign.com/

16 Joulu 202253min

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