309 - Jacob Howland - Technological Cannibalism

309 - Jacob Howland - Technological Cannibalism

I had an amazing discussion with Jacob Howland about the fundamental question of technology. We investigate from both the Biblical and ancient Greek perspectives what technology is and its effects on the human spirit.
We discuss the notion of memory and recollection, Plato’s Phaedrus, the Biblical notion of garments of skin, ChatGPT and AI, work and leisure, technology’s effects on human capabilities, paganism and idolatry, intelligence, and “the matrix”, the internet, intuition, and much more.

Jacob Howland is the Provost and Director of the Intellectual Foundations Program at UATX, commonly known as the University of Austin.
His latest book is Glaucon's Fate: History, Myth, and Character in Plato's Republic (Paul Dry Books, 2018): https://www.amazon.com/Glaucons-Fate-History-Character-Republic/dp/1589881346

Jacob Howland’s website: https://www.jacobhowland.com/
His articles on Unherd: https://unherd.com/author/jacob-howlandunherd-com/

YouTube version of this podcast: https://youtu.be/o468OtytbVQ

Timestamps:
00:00 - Coming up
01:02 - Intro music
01:28 - Introduction
01:59 - Different narratives about technology
04:09 - Technology from the Greek perspective
05:01 - Plato's Phaedra - and fixing words
08:16 - Egypt
09:29 - Suppressing recollection
11:13 - The garments of skin
15:02 - Work - sorting chaos
18:17 - Human capabilities diminishing
19:53 - ChatGPT cannibalizes itself
22:06 - A pagan god that feeds on humans
23:52 - Human batteries
26:03 - Intuition - direct access to reality
28:49 - What do we mean by intelligence?
30:47 - Understand AI as idolatry
32:19 - The gold of the golden calf
34:53 - The tabernacle
35:33 - A body of power
37:39 - card: Beasts in Revelation
39:16 - Work and leisure
47:45 - Monastic life and leisure
49:18 - Not anti-technology
50:54 - The Henry Adams curve
56:56 - The Beast kills the whore
1:00:17 - Plato's cave
1:01:19 - There is no "solution"
1:03:24 - Prometheus’ cycle of desire
1:05:58 - The flip side of all of this
1:10:15 - Paradise Lost
1:11:09 - The need for transcendence
1:12:26 - Re-engage at the human scale

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169 - Richard Rohlin - The Apocalypse and the Return of the King

169 - Richard Rohlin - The Apocalypse and the Return of the King

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau This is my second interview with Richard Rohlin, philologist and co-host of the Amon Sûl podcast. We continue to explore history through the symbolic lens, paying particular attention to the images of Christ and Antichrist. Throughout our conversation we draw on the Book of Revelation and the Sibylline Oracles, discussing Mithradates VI of Pontus, the Roman Emperor Nero and his return as an antichrist figure, the Arthurian legends and the combination of violent tyranny and decadence as manifestations of the end of a world. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyLFK7Lo0Zw My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

30 Heinä 20211h 19min

168 - The Mark of Cain

168 - The Mark of Cain

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau This is my second video trying to relate the difficult symbolism in the Book of Revelation. While my first video was about the beasts in Revelation, now we will attempt to understand the Mark of the Beast. But to understand the Mark of the Beast we must first understand what a mark is in general. In this video I discuss this very primordial symbolism, starting with its origins in Scripture and how it’s related to accounting, technology, identification, and, yes, medicine. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh9BC-wONBs My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

24 Heinä 202146min

167 - Frederica Mathewes-Green - How We Exist Together

167 - Frederica Mathewes-Green - How We Exist Together

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau rederica Mathewes-Green is a well-known writer and speaker on the Eastern Orthodox faith in America. She is very involved with Ancient Faith Radio and has her own ongoing podcast, “Frederica Here and Now” that started in 2007. She’s written numerous books like “Welcome to the Orthodox Church, An Introduction to Eastern Christianity”, “The Jesus Prayer: The Ancient Desert Prayer that Tunes the Heart to God” and many more. In this interview we talk about the idea of “re-enchantment” that you’ve heard me mention, differentiating it from “magic”. We discuss the various problems with modernity, like abstraction, loneliness, self-naming and how the popular psychological notion of “self-help” differs from the Orthodox path to salvation. Lastly we talk about the “supernatural”, or #SymbolismHappens. Check out Frederica’s website: https://blogs.ancientfaith.com/frederica/ Her books on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Frederica-Mathewes-Green/e/B001JS53KE%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share Her Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/fredericamg Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYsFwHXTY-Y My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

19 Heinä 202152min

166 - May Q&A

166 - May Q&A

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau May Q&A Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb4IdtMEMlU My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

9 Heinä 20212h 30min

165 - Robert Breedlove - What is Money?

165 - Robert Breedlove - What is Money?

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau I interview Robert Breedlove to talk about cryptocurrency and Bitcoin. Robert is the host of the What Is Money Show podcast linked below. He has a background in finance, accounting and cryptocurrency. We discuss what money is, the uniqueness of Bitcoin as a currency, where its security comes from, the role of authority in currency, the volatility of Bitcoin and the dangers of potentiality. Original Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbOajBWY4bs My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

2 Heinä 202150min

164 - Dr. Mario Baghos - The Mythical Constantinople

164 - Dr. Mario Baghos - The Mythical Constantinople

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau I interview Dr. Mario Baghos, an Australian scholar. Dr Mario Baghos is Lecturer in Theology (Patristics) and Church History at St Andrew’s Greek Orthodox Theological College (Sydney College of Divinity). Dr. Baghos has a PhD in Studies in Religion from the University of Sydney (2015). He has written a book called “From the Ancient Near East to Christian Byzantium” wherein he explores the symbolism of the foundations of Constantinople and ancient civilizations. This discussion is a continuation of my first interview with Richard Rohlin (A Universal History: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N5s4n_lwB8) where we talked about history through the more mythical, symbolic lens. In this interview Mario and I discuss the importance of Constantinople, the “second Rome”, as the first city founded upon a Christian vision of the cosmos, by Saint Constantine the Great after his conversion to Christianity. We discuss the legends around the founding of the city, its forgotten spiritual and cultural influence, its connection with Troy and role in the universal history as well as the preservation of ancient pagan texts and statuary and their place in a Christian hierarchy. Mario’s book, From the Ancient Near East to Christian Byzantium: Kings, Symbols, and Cities: https://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Near-East-Christian-Byzantium/dp/1527566277/ -Cambridge Scholars Publishing: https://www.cambridgescholars.com/product/978-1-5275-6627-9 Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vGTGBW8CS4 My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

20 Kesä 20211h 1min

163 - Dr. Paula Boddington - Biotech Creation Myths

163 - Dr. Paula Boddington - Biotech Creation Myths

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Dr. Paula Boddington is a moral philosopher and expert on the ethical questions surrounding the advancement of biomedical technologies as well as artificial intelligence. This is our second conversation where we continue to discuss AI and the narratives surrounding it, as well as dissecting other modern narratives about technology, evolution, progress, environmentalism, medical hybridization, contraceptives, intelligence and the individual. Our first conversation: How Artificial Intelligence is Reshaping Humanity - With Dr. Paula Boddington: https://youtu.be/jti77KQKYuc Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=h76iIz8t1gE My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

13 Kesä 20211h 3min

162 - Fr. Stephen De Young - Hope for the Future and the Religion of the Apostles

162 - Fr. Stephen De Young - Hope for the Future and the Religion of the Apostles

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Fr. Stephen De Young is an Orthodox priest. He’s the host of the Whole Counsel of God podcast and a co-host of the Lord of Spirits podcast from Ancient Faith Ratio. He’s also the author of the Whole Counsel Blog. Today we are discussing Fr. Stephen’s new book “The Religion of the Apostles”. We talk about "the divine council”, what it means to exist, monotheism vs polytheism, atheism and materialism, postmodernism, the Book of Enoch, witchcraft, the judgement of God and hope for the future. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsuxgepcNwQ My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

6 Kesä 20211h 9min

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