309 - Jacob Howland - Technological Cannibalism

309 - Jacob Howland - Technological Cannibalism

I had an amazing discussion with Jacob Howland about the fundamental question of technology. We investigate from both the Biblical and ancient Greek perspectives what technology is and its effects on the human spirit.
We discuss the notion of memory and recollection, Plato’s Phaedrus, the Biblical notion of garments of skin, ChatGPT and AI, work and leisure, technology’s effects on human capabilities, paganism and idolatry, intelligence, and “the matrix”, the internet, intuition, and much more.

Jacob Howland is the Provost and Director of the Intellectual Foundations Program at UATX, commonly known as the University of Austin.
His latest book is Glaucon's Fate: History, Myth, and Character in Plato's Republic (Paul Dry Books, 2018): https://www.amazon.com/Glaucons-Fate-History-Character-Republic/dp/1589881346

Jacob Howland’s website: https://www.jacobhowland.com/
His articles on Unherd: https://unherd.com/author/jacob-howlandunherd-com/

YouTube version of this podcast: https://youtu.be/o468OtytbVQ

Timestamps:
00:00 - Coming up
01:02 - Intro music
01:28 - Introduction
01:59 - Different narratives about technology
04:09 - Technology from the Greek perspective
05:01 - Plato's Phaedra - and fixing words
08:16 - Egypt
09:29 - Suppressing recollection
11:13 - The garments of skin
15:02 - Work - sorting chaos
18:17 - Human capabilities diminishing
19:53 - ChatGPT cannibalizes itself
22:06 - A pagan god that feeds on humans
23:52 - Human batteries
26:03 - Intuition - direct access to reality
28:49 - What do we mean by intelligence?
30:47 - Understand AI as idolatry
32:19 - The gold of the golden calf
34:53 - The tabernacle
35:33 - A body of power
37:39 - card: Beasts in Revelation
39:16 - Work and leisure
47:45 - Monastic life and leisure
49:18 - Not anti-technology
50:54 - The Henry Adams curve
56:56 - The Beast kills the whore
1:00:17 - Plato's cave
1:01:19 - There is no "solution"
1:03:24 - Prometheus’ cycle of desire
1:05:58 - The flip side of all of this
1:10:15 - Paradise Lost
1:11:09 - The need for transcendence
1:12:26 - Re-engage at the human scale

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113 - July Q&A

113 - July Q&A

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau July Q&A Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtYs5Zm0qWM My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

13 Elo 20201h 31min

112 - Jordan Peterson and the Stories We Live In

112 - Jordan Peterson and the Stories We Live In

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau I look at the effect of Jordan Peterson on culture, the similarities in our thought as well as my differences with him regarding the importance of stories. This essay was commissioned by Word On Fire with the original title: "Faith, Film, and the Stories We Live in." Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTsRnW6baO0 My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

6 Elo 202020min

111 - Kanye West for President

111 - Kanye West for President

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau We look at the meaning of Kanye West running for president, and how in his frantic appeals, appears the most basic wisdom as the fool turns the world back to order. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wbxVVKr89g My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

30 Heinä 202024min

110 - Nicholas Kotar - Fairy Tales are Better Than Vaccines

110 - Nicholas Kotar - Fairy Tales are Better Than Vaccines

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Nicholas Kotar discusses the importance of story telling in the crisis that we are facing. We discuss Covid and the Georg Floyd protests as well as his own writings. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfhFlpJJYaQ My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

23 Heinä 202051min

109 - June Q&A

109 - June Q&A

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau June Q&A Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=7foO9NjPnrA My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

15 Heinä 20201h 48min

108 - Casting Down Images

108 - Casting Down Images

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau We explore the meaning of the casting down of statues and other symbols of history. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdW1WA2n0lE My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

8 Heinä 202019min

107 - Why the Protests Look So Religious

107 - Why the Protests Look So Religious

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau We look at why the George Floyd protests used so much religious imagery. From kneeling and chanting to contrition and acts of communion, the protests used catharsis as a means to a form of religious ecstasy, which was made more intense because of the Covid-19 lockdown. We even look at the trope of Human Sacrifice appearing in the narrative. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7GZHEuOpO4& My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

30 Kesä 202019min

106 - Vesper Stamper - Plague, Revolt and Flagellants

106 - Vesper Stamper - Plague, Revolt and Flagellants

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Vesper Stamper is an author, she has written a novel called What the Night Sings and is getting ready to publish her second novel, A Cloud of Outrageous Blue. Thinkspot organized this discussion for us where we could discuss the current moment. We talk about Covid, the protests and the strange pseudo-religious actions we have seen in the last week. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkKJCOSVERg& My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

21 Kesä 20201h 19min

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