359 - John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall - Why Christianity?
The Symbolic World19 Syys 2024

359 - John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall - Why Christianity?

This conversation is in part John Vervaeke's response to my previous video with Jordan Hall (The End of Strategy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnR2PYtLLnI) where we discussed Jordan's recent conversion to Christianity. John fires up some questions, and we discuss different aspects of sensemaking and religious structures to answer the question: Why Christianity?

Original YouTube version: https://youtu.be/Vp_08T0Ucik

REGISTER TODAY FOR OUR NEW SYMBOLIC WORLD COURSE WITH JOHN VERVAEKE: The Cognitive Science of Ritual. Live classes start on October 7th, 2024, 2-4 pm EST on the Symbolic World Circle community. This is a 6-week, 12-hour online course. All lesson recordings will be made available afterward and all materials will be provided. The final lesson will be co-hosted by Jonathan Pageau in a Q&A format. All patrons at the Involved tier or higher get a 10% discount; see your unique code at the top of the course page and apply at checkout: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/the-cognitive-science-of-ritual
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Coming up
01:42 - Intro music
02:07 - Introduction
05:07 - John's pov on Jonathan and Jordan's conversation
08:49 - Why Christian faith?
15:38 - Jordan's answer: the Ultimate Map
18:27 - The current dialogos
21:10 - Jonathan: The Christian Escatological map
25:52 - Jordan: Relationship to Jesus
32:20 - Grief and the qualities of love
37:40 - Jonathan: Particularity beyond duality
41:43 - Jordan: A deeper capacity to suffer
44:49 - John: Being is good / Not escape
46:54 - Jonathan: Theosis
49:25 - What if this is a crypto-egoism?
55:26 - Is this the grounding of your Christian faith?
01:01:29 - Zen: Does the infinite love you?
01:11:39 - Intimacy
01:22:18 - We can't be meta
01:27:47 - Universalism
01:29:01 - We each have our callings
01:30:21 - John and Christianity

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My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson.

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226 - Richard Rohlin - Universal History: The Christian Continuation of Hanukkah

226 - Richard Rohlin - Universal History: The Christian Continuation of Hanukkah

In this episode of the universal history series Richard Rohlin and I build on our previous discussion about Groundhog Day and its connection to the Orthodox feast of the Meeting of the Lord in the Temple, which is actually one of four winter feasts (The Entrance of the Theotokos to the Temple, the Nativity, Theophany and finally the Meeting of the Lord in the Temple). Together these four celebrations are a continuation of the Jewish feast of Hanukkah. This episode is all about their surrounding symbolism, liturgy, iconography and how they tie into the astronomical year. - Episode on Groundhog Day on YouTube: https://youtu.be/dX6PZBS1Q9Q - The Universal History series on YouTube: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVX4HUUPrIY_M2uZP3yW6EEiod3fGD6FD Recommended book: - The Stripping of the Altars: Traditional Religion in England, 1400-1580, by Eamon Duffy: https://www.amazon.com/Stripping-Altars-Traditional-Religion-1400-1580/dp/0300108281 ============= Richard’s work: - Richard Rohlin’s articles on The Symbolic World blog: https://thesymbolicworld.com/author/richard_rohlin/ - Amon Sûl podcast (Exploring the Tolkien Legendarium with the Christian Faith): https://www.ancientfaith.com/podcasts/amonsul - Amid Weeping There is Joy: https://www.amazon.com/Amid-Weeping-There-Joy-Perspectives/dp/1951536126 ============= Original video: https://youtu.be/MKQc7AZvK2A - The Symbolic World website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com - Merch: http://www.thesymbolicworld.store - Language of Creation, by Matthieu Pageau: https://www.amazon.com/Language-Creation-Cosmic-Symbolism-Genesis-ebook/dp/B07D738HD8 Support this podcast: - Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ - Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos - Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau - Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: - Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ - The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: - Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau

31 Maalis 202258min

225 - John Vervaeke - Angels in Scientific Terms - Part 2

225 - John Vervaeke - Angels in Scientific Terms - Part 2

John Vervaeke and I continue where we left off in our last conversation, discussing the agency, intelligence and consciousness of interpersonal beings (angels) in both symbolic and secular terms. Original video: https://youtu.be/2BVjIOpV9KQ - The Symbolic World website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com - Merch: http://www.thesymbolicworld.store - Language of Creation, by Matthieu Pageau: https://www.amazon.com/Language-Creation-Cosmic-Symbolism-Genesis-ebook/dp/B07D738HD8 Support this podcast: - Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ - Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos - Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau - Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: - Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ - The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: - Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau

14 Maalis 20221h 13min

224 - Thoughts on the Situation in Ukraine

224 - Thoughts on the Situation in Ukraine

In this video I talk about why up to now I haven't been very vocal about the conflict in Ukraine, and why I'm paying close attention to what is happening and the patterns that loom over us. Original video: https://youtu.be/XHCT25T4GlU - The Symbolic World website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com - Merch: http://www.thesymbolicworld.store - Language of Creation, by Matthieu Pageau: https://www.amazon.com/Language-Creation-Cosmic-Symbolism-Genesis-ebook/dp/B07D738HD8 Support this podcast: - Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ - Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos - Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau - Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: - Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ - The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: - Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau

9 Maalis 202216min

223 - Doug TenNapel - Christianity and Pop Culture

223 - Doug TenNapel - Christianity and Pop Culture

In this podcast episode I talk with American animator, writer, cartoonist, video game designer, and comic book artist, Doug TenNapel. He’s the author and illustrator of over 20 graphic novels and is most known for Earthworm Jim. We talk about Western storytelling, wokeness VS traditional stories, what the future holds, going to church, comic books and telling Christian stories in a secular world. Enjoy. - The Symbolic World website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com - Merch: http://www.thesymbolicworld.store - Language of Creation, by Matthieu Pageau: https://www.amazon.com/Language-Creation-Cosmic-Symbolism-Genesis-ebook/dp/B07D738HD8 Support this podcast: - Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ - Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos - Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau - Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: - Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ - The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: - Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau

7 Maalis 202232min

222 - February 2022 Q&A

222 - February 2022 Q&A

This is February's monthly YouTube Q&A livestream, where I answered questions that patrons of $10/month or more submitted on my website, Subscribestar and Patreon. The livestream was for patrons only. Original video: https://youtu.be/V8-3ELHxccE - The Symbolic World website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com - Merch: http://www.thesymbolicworld.store - Language of Creation, by Matthieu Pageau: https://www.amazon.com/Language-Creation-Cosmic-Symbolism-Genesis-ebook/dp/B07D738HD8 Support this podcast: - Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ - Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos - Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau - Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: - Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ - The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: - Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau

1 Maalis 20221h 36min

221 - Fr. Silouan Justiniano - Icons and Contemporary Art

221 - Fr. Silouan Justiniano - Icons and Contemporary Art

Fr. Silouan Justiniano is a hieromonk, Orthodox priest and artist. In my estimation he's one of the most important visual artists in North America today. In this interview we take a deep dive into contemporary art history, the traditional icon, and how the two connect. (Watch the corresponding YouTube video to see images of the art that we refer to in our conversation.) - Fr. Silouan's website: https://hieromonksilouan.org/about - Fr. Silouan's articles on the Orthodox Arts Journal: https://orthodoxartsjournal.org/fr-silouan-justiniano/ Original YouTube video: https://youtu.be/I6ptxOV_opw ======================= - The Symbolic World website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com - Merch: http://www.thesymbolicworld.store - Language of Creation, by Matthieu Pageau: https://www.amazon.com/Language-Creation-Cosmic-Symbolism-Genesis-ebook/dp/B07D738HD8 Support this podcast: - Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ - Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos - Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau - Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: - Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ - The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: - Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau

23 Helmi 20221h 19min

220 - King David: How to Be a Conservative Rebel

220 - King David: How to Be a Conservative Rebel

In this podcast I talk about the symbolism of a conservative rebel. The stories of David and King Saul in Scripture can tell us a lot about how we can act today to resist a tyrannical system in the proper manner and without revolution. Original video: https://youtu.be/nBHEX0odIMY - The Symbolic World website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com - Merch: http://www.thesymbolicworld.store - Language of Creation, by Matthieu Pageau: https://www.amazon.com/Language-Creation-Cosmic-Symbolism-Genesis-ebook/dp/B07D738HD8 Support this podcast: - Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ - Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos - Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau - Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: - Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ - The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: - Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau

14 Helmi 202222min

219 - Dr. Nathan Jacobs - Theology for Those Who Don’t Fit

219 - Dr. Nathan Jacobs - Theology for Those Who Don’t Fit

Dr. Nathan Jacobs is a filmmaker, artist, scholar, writer and Orthodox Christian. He's the writer-director of the documentary film called Becoming Truly Human (2017), which looks at the religiously unaffiliated, or "Nones," as a growing demographic. In this conversation we discuss his journey to Orthodox Christianity and how it intersects with his work, the problems he experienced in Western Christian theology and how the Eastern Church Fathers resolve many Christian as well as modern problems like emergence, the multiverse, cognitive science etc. Check out Nathan’s work: https://www.nathanajacobs.com ================ Original video: https://youtu.be/zgVGpaWzgyY Thank you to Nicolás Hernández Moreno for creating this version of the intro music. - The Symbolic World website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com - Merch: http://www.thesymbolicworld.store - Language of Creation, by Matthieu Pageau: https://www.amazon.com/Language-Creation-Cosmic-Symbolism-Genesis-ebook/dp/B07D738HD8 Support this podcast: - Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ - Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos - Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau - Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: - Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ - The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: - Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau

10 Helmi 20221h 17min

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