359 - John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall - Why Christianity?
The Symbolic World19 Syys 2024

359 - John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall - Why Christianity?

This conversation is in part John Vervaeke's response to my previous video with Jordan Hall (The End of Strategy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnR2PYtLLnI) where we discussed Jordan's recent conversion to Christianity. John fires up some questions, and we discuss different aspects of sensemaking and religious structures to answer the question: Why Christianity?

Original YouTube version: https://youtu.be/Vp_08T0Ucik

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Timestamps:
00:00 - Coming up
01:42 - Intro music
02:07 - Introduction
05:07 - John's pov on Jonathan and Jordan's conversation
08:49 - Why Christian faith?
15:38 - Jordan's answer: the Ultimate Map
18:27 - The current dialogos
21:10 - Jonathan: The Christian Escatological map
25:52 - Jordan: Relationship to Jesus
32:20 - Grief and the qualities of love
37:40 - Jonathan: Particularity beyond duality
41:43 - Jordan: A deeper capacity to suffer
44:49 - John: Being is good / Not escape
46:54 - Jonathan: Theosis
49:25 - What if this is a crypto-egoism?
55:26 - Is this the grounding of your Christian faith?
01:01:29 - Zen: Does the infinite love you?
01:11:39 - Intimacy
01:22:18 - We can't be meta
01:27:47 - Universalism
01:29:01 - We each have our callings
01:30:21 - John and Christianity

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My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson.

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178 - July 2021 Q&A

178 - July 2021 Q&A

July 2021 Q&A Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoffbO_A2hM Support this podcast: Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau The podcast was edited by Justin Ward

1 Loka 20212h 12min

177 - Christianity is Not Revolutionary

177 - Christianity is Not Revolutionary

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Through the parable of the Vinedressers and of the Wedding Feast we look at how Christianity is not a revolutionary system, but rather one in which we see how what is below is properly united with what is above. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Frh_f-wgxZE My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

25 Syys 202128min

176 - Richard Rohlin - From Alexander the Great to Ethiopia

176 - Richard Rohlin - From Alexander the Great to Ethiopia

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau This is my fourth discussion with Richard Rohlin, philologist and co-host of the Amon Sûl podcast. We continue our exploration of universal history, picking up where we left off last episode with the special symbolic significance of Ethiopia (https://youtu.be/czy7MnDXOO0). In this episode we address some responses we’ve received on the universal history series. We discuss the Apocalypse of Pseudo-Methodius more in depth, the role of Ethiopia in medieval history, the magic gates of Alexander the Great and Alexander’s connection to Ethiopia and the apocalypse, hybridity and we also hint at the symbolism of the US, in particular the Lincoln Memorial. Original Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkXcay54e6Q My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

19 Syys 20211h 19min

175 - The Symbolic Structure of the Beatitudes

175 - The Symbolic Structure of the Beatitudes

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau In this video I explore the meaning of the Beatitudes in Matthew 5. These famous passages can help us understand how Christ is not only the “top of the hierarchy”, so to speak, but He also fills it, and provides the means for others to participate in creation as microcosms of Himself. It’s also important to understand the surrounding context of the Beatitudes and how they fit into the bigger image of who Christ is. Remember to like and subscribe if you enjoy these kinds of videos and check out all The Symbolic World links below for more content like articles on symbolism, the clips channel, my French channel and the Symbolic World merch store. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryNfmZgoJCA My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

9 Syys 202119min

174 - The Inevitability of Religion

174 - The Inevitability of Religion

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Two months ago I was a guest on the Freedom Pact podcast. The interviewer asked some very good questions on my views about religion, science, evolution, video games, heaven and hell, Jordan Peterson, artificial intelligence, psychedelics and more. The Freedom Pact Podcast has been featured in the top 100 of every global chart. Including being top 50 in the UK, US & India, and being #1 in places such as Iceland, Northern Ireland, Norway, the Philippines, Nigeria and Cana Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUQs5PxSi4s My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

2 Syys 20211h 9min

173 - Richard Rohlin - The Mystery of Ethiopia

173 - Richard Rohlin - The Mystery of Ethiopia

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau This is my third conversation about universal history with Richard Rohlin, philologist and co-host of the Amon Sûl podcast. We are very excited to discuss Ethiopia and its unique role in the universal history. We draw a lot on Scripture: the Queen of Sheba, Moses' Ethiopian wife and the Ethiopian eunuch mentioned in Acts. This topic is all about the symbolism of the margins, encountering the stranger and the flip that can happen at the end of something. Also relevant is the role of the feminine and in particular the foreign woman. Stay tuned for our follow-up talk where we will see the role of Ethiopia in medieval universal history and its connections with Alexander the Great. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=czy7MnDXOO0 My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

24 Elo 20211h 19min

172 - June Q&A

172 - June Q&A

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau June Q&A Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hY_9lKZbEc My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

22 Elo 20212h 10min

171 - Eugene Vodolazkin - Laurus, a Glimpse Into the Medieval Mind

171 - Eugene Vodolazkin - Laurus, a Glimpse Into the Medieval Mind

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau I talk with Russian scholar and author, Eugene Vodolazkin. Eugene wrote the amazing and highly recommended novel, Laurus. Laurus won the National Big Book Award and the Yasnaya Polyana Award and was shortlisted for the National Bestseller Prize, the Russian Booker Prize and the New Literature Award. It has been translated into eighteen languages. Set in the fifteenth century, it's remarkable at transporting the reader to medieval thinking and an enchanted vision of Christianity, paving the way for good Christian storytelling. In this interview Eugene and I discuss how the perceptions of time and transcendence differed for ancient people compared to today, we talk about how history was viewed in the Middle Ages and the natural connections with the pagan traditions that historically preceded Christianity. We also discuss modern storytelling like that of J.R.R. Tolkien and J.K. Rowling, the magnitude of Scripture and avoiding creating propaganda. Book Link: https://www.amazon.com/Laurus-Eugene-Vodolazkin/dp/178074871X Original Video: hwww.youtube.com/watch?v=fjupdHkSLcw My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

15 Elo 202155min

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