359 - John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall - Why Christianity?
The Symbolic World19 Syys 2024

359 - John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall - Why Christianity?

This conversation is in part John Vervaeke's response to my previous video with Jordan Hall (The End of Strategy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnR2PYtLLnI) where we discussed Jordan's recent conversion to Christianity. John fires up some questions, and we discuss different aspects of sensemaking and religious structures to answer the question: Why Christianity?

Original YouTube version: https://youtu.be/Vp_08T0Ucik

REGISTER TODAY FOR OUR NEW SYMBOLIC WORLD COURSE WITH JOHN VERVAEKE: The Cognitive Science of Ritual. Live classes start on October 7th, 2024, 2-4 pm EST on the Symbolic World Circle community. This is a 6-week, 12-hour online course. All lesson recordings will be made available afterward and all materials will be provided. The final lesson will be co-hosted by Jonathan Pageau in a Q&A format. All patrons at the Involved tier or higher get a 10% discount; see your unique code at the top of the course page and apply at checkout: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/the-cognitive-science-of-ritual
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Coming up
01:42 - Intro music
02:07 - Introduction
05:07 - John's pov on Jonathan and Jordan's conversation
08:49 - Why Christian faith?
15:38 - Jordan's answer: the Ultimate Map
18:27 - The current dialogos
21:10 - Jonathan: The Christian Escatological map
25:52 - Jordan: Relationship to Jesus
32:20 - Grief and the qualities of love
37:40 - Jonathan: Particularity beyond duality
41:43 - Jordan: A deeper capacity to suffer
44:49 - John: Being is good / Not escape
46:54 - Jonathan: Theosis
49:25 - What if this is a crypto-egoism?
55:26 - Is this the grounding of your Christian faith?
01:01:29 - Zen: Does the infinite love you?
01:11:39 - Intimacy
01:22:18 - We can't be meta
01:27:47 - Universalism
01:29:01 - We each have our callings
01:30:21 - John and Christianity

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My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson.

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146 - JF Martel - The Weird and the Sacred

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau JF Martel is a filmmaker, an author, a cultural commentator and the co-host of a podcast called Weird Studies. My strange doppelganger, JF and I discuss art, stories and the relationship with the weird and the sacred. You can find JF's content from his website: http://www.reclaimingart.com/ Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvlmDhltTAU My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

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145 - January Q&A

145 - January Q&A

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau January Q&A Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=weX2nbdva1E My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

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144 - Fr. John Strickland - History of the West in View of the East

144 - Fr. John Strickland - History of the West in View of the East

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Fr. John Strickland is a parish priest who is also the author of a series on the the history of Christianity from the point of view of the relationship between the East and the West. We explore the shift in culture produced in the West which can be traced all the way to the court of Charlemagne, and how this shift grows in the Renaissance to give us the modern age and its fragmentation. https://www.ancientfaith.com/contributors/john_strickland Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y2XNfUNeTo My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

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143 - The Blindness of "Following the Science"

143 - The Blindness of "Following the Science"

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Many Public figures have been using the phrase "follow the science" in the recent crisis. Such phrases ignore how science is a tool and does not offer any way of discerning a goal towards which we should follow science. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNKn5d_yUrg My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

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142 - Matt Fradd - Icons vs Porn

142 - Matt Fradd - Icons vs Porn

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Matt Fradd from Pints with Aquinas and I get to know each other and we discuss iconography, religious art, nudity, pornography and how Christianity has found solutions to these questions. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN771heEs4U My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

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141 - December Q&A

141 - December Q&A

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau December Q&A Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKeEmnCLOkI My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

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140 - Paul Vanderklay - The Future of Online Discussions on Meaning

140 - Paul Vanderklay - The Future of Online Discussions on Meaning

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Paul Vanderklay and I discuss the future of online discussions on meaning, where we are going and how we can bear fruits in the real world. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knkx5sMK4D8 My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

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139 - Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer as Modern Mythmaking

139 - Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer as Modern Mythmaking

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau We look at the story of Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer and how it can show us a glimpse of how stories take up ma mythical space. This video was my December 2019 patron only video. Original Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z87XnoXrjo My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

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