359 - John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall - Why Christianity?
The Symbolic World19 Syys 2024

359 - John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall - Why Christianity?

This conversation is in part John Vervaeke's response to my previous video with Jordan Hall (The End of Strategy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnR2PYtLLnI) where we discussed Jordan's recent conversion to Christianity. John fires up some questions, and we discuss different aspects of sensemaking and religious structures to answer the question: Why Christianity?

Original YouTube version: https://youtu.be/Vp_08T0Ucik

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Timestamps:
00:00 - Coming up
01:42 - Intro music
02:07 - Introduction
05:07 - John's pov on Jonathan and Jordan's conversation
08:49 - Why Christian faith?
15:38 - Jordan's answer: the Ultimate Map
18:27 - The current dialogos
21:10 - Jonathan: The Christian Escatological map
25:52 - Jordan: Relationship to Jesus
32:20 - Grief and the qualities of love
37:40 - Jonathan: Particularity beyond duality
41:43 - Jordan: A deeper capacity to suffer
44:49 - John: Being is good / Not escape
46:54 - Jonathan: Theosis
49:25 - What if this is a crypto-egoism?
55:26 - Is this the grounding of your Christian faith?
01:01:29 - Zen: Does the infinite love you?
01:11:39 - Intimacy
01:22:18 - We can't be meta
01:27:47 - Universalism
01:29:01 - We each have our callings
01:30:21 - John and Christianity

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My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson.

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106 - Vesper Stamper - Plague, Revolt and Flagellants

106 - Vesper Stamper - Plague, Revolt and Flagellants

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Vesper Stamper is an author, she has written a novel called What the Night Sings and is getting ready to publish her second novel, A Cloud of Outrageous Blue. Thinkspot organized this discussion for us where we could discuss the current moment. We talk about Covid, the protests and the strange pseudo-religious actions we have seen in the last week. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkKJCOSVERg& My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

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105 - May Q&A

105 - May Q&A

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau May Q&A Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiedF6T-Tw0 My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

15 Kesä 20201h 53min

104 - The Meaning of Protest

104 - The Meaning of Protest

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau We look at the symbolism of protest and riots, how they manifest an aspect of the pattern of reality. We also look at instances in the Bible where grumbling and protest bring about different reactions and how this shows us the positive and negative aspect of the pattern. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzGqea4pSgA My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

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103 - Paul VanderKlay - What to Do After the First Jordan Peterson Wave?

103 - Paul VanderKlay - What to Do After the First Jordan Peterson Wave?

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau I discuss the situation with Pastor Paul VanderKlay. We look at the situation as Jordan Peterson has retreated, what it means and what to do. His channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGsDIP_K6J6VSTqlq-9IPlg Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDAfMeX_vuw My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

3 Kesä 20201h 55min

102 - Mythic Patterns in Mario Games Pt 1: The Arcade Origins

102 - Mythic Patterns in Mario Games Pt 1: The Arcade Origins

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau The early Mario Games: Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr. and Mario Brothers, present the basic mythological pattern which will later get developed in the history of video games. This is the first part of a two part series. In the next part, we will look at Super Mario Brothers and how it brings together the different symbolic meanings into one game. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nQvVpLnZCw& My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

27 Touko 202019min

101 - April Q&A

101 - April Q&A

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau April Q&A Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9ahOd5JKw My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

20 Touko 20201h 33min

100 - The Joker and Cancel Culture

100 - The Joker and Cancel Culture

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau The opening scene of the Dark Knight movie by Christopher Nolan is one of the best examples of revolution and can help us understand contemporary phenomena like cancel culture. In that scene, the Joker played by Heath Ledger orchestrates a bank heist which also becomes a statement for what the Joker stands for and establishes him as the King of an upside down clown hierarchy. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m3Vo9efMv0 My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

1 Touko 20209min

99 - Mediating Purity and Trade in a Pandemic

99 - Mediating Purity and Trade in a Pandemic

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Finding the necessary balance between purity and exchange has been difficult in this moment of pandemic, it exposes the problem of being the prey of symbolic swings. We look at purity and trade, but also the symbolism of masks and veils. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pUS26ucxXM& My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

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