362 - Dr. Martin Shaw - Christian Wonder Tales
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362 - Dr. Martin Shaw - Christian Wonder Tales

"The soul is not fed entirely by logic, we are fed by images. Ideas are interesting, but when we want to be absolutely poleaxed by wonder it is a story that's going to do it."

I had a wonderful discussion with the captivating storyteller and mythographer, Dr. Martin Shaw, about the value of - not only understanding - but also telling and entering into stories. We talk about the various traditions of storytelling covered in his upcoming course, how to approach these tales of our inheritance, the modern taming of Christianity, and how Bible stories are different from pagan and more peripheral myths.

Original YouTube version: https://youtu.be/uPQdfx5a-R4

Sign up for Dr. Martin Shaw's first-ever live online course, Christian Wonder Tales, starting November 12th. This 4-week, 8-hour course is hosted on the Symbolic World Circle Community. Patrons at the Involved level or higher get 10% off, apply your discount code at checkout: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/christian-wonder-tales

Mythographer, writer, and storyteller Dr Martin Shaw takes us deep into the heart of what he calls Christian Wonder Tales. Profoundly mythic, these teaching stories range from the early saints through to the grandeur of the Round Table and Arthurian tradition. Shaw emphasises these stories as remerging providentially on time for the perils of modern life. Filled with vocation, sacrifice, and courage, these are an inheritance many of us simply didn’t know we had.
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Coming up
00:44 - Intro music
01:09 - Start
01:52 - A failure that makes honey
05:46 - Pre-Christian Ireland
08:05 - The Arthurian tradition
09:53 - A rule for life
12:29 - Follow an animal
16:09 - Return to these stories
20:20 - The soul is not only fed by logic
24:53 - Why has Christianity become so mundane?
33:39 - Stories that are too strange
36:00 - How were they preserved?
38:08 - Stories that Martin and Jonathan struggled with
44:54 - The Bible
48:57 - You can't draw Jesus with one line
53:07 - The Gospel seminar
56:06 - Let the stories do the work
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185 - How Kanye West Bridges Contradictions With Donda

185 - How Kanye West Bridges Contradictions With Donda

Kanye West’s new album, named after his late mother Donda, was released on 29 August 2021 and since its release people have been asking me what I think of it and of his controversial collaboration with artists like DaBaby and Marilyn Manson. In this episode I take a look at what he seems to be trying to do with this album, looking specifically at one of his Chicago events and the song Come to Life, which includes Kim Kardashian in the music video. As you know I’ve been following Kanye West for a while, keeping an eye on his effects on culture and his conversion to Christianity. I’ve said before that he’s playing the role of the fool who is capable of bridging extremes in culture. In his own particularities he seems to be trying to reconcile many contradictions and bringing that into the symbolism of his music as well as in his collaborations. Original video: https://youtu.be/Xm7UNFMb6aU Support this podcast: Webside: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau

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184 - Richard Rohlin - Extreme Ethiopia

184 - Richard Rohlin - Extreme Ethiopia

This is my third and final Universal History discussion with Richard Rohlin on the topic of Ethiopia. Today we will look at several Ethiopian practices and how they ultimately manifest the two roles of Ethiopia as both the “container”, or the Ark, and the extreme. We discuss the importance of personhood in culture and the role of the saints, before we dive into different themes in Ethiopian tradition and hagiography that include a focus on the 9 Roman Saints we mentioned last time, the good thief, the saint as punisher, the scandalous aspect of salvation regarding cannibalism and the Eucharist, and much more. Enjoy. Richard Rohlin’s work: -Amon Sûl podcast, co-hosted by Richard Rohlin: https://www.ancientfaith.com/podcasts/amonsul -Finding the Golden Key book project for listeners to submit abstracts: https://findingthegoldenkey.com Read more: -The Mystery of Ethiopian Iconography article, by Jonathan Pageau: https://orthodoxartsjournal.org/the-mystery-of-ethiopian-iconography/ -The Serpents of Orthodoxy article, by Jonathan Pageau: https://orthodoxartsjournal.org/the-serpents-of-orthodoxy/ Original video: https://youtu.be/ynovna2c9r8 Support this podcast: Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau

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183 - August 2021 Super-Post-Covid Q&A

183 - August 2021 Super-Post-Covid Q&A

August 2021 monthly Q&A Original video: https://youtu.be/hctOvHGJSfM Support this podcast: Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau

23 Loka 20212h 13min

182 - The Key to How I Interpret Scripture

182 - The Key to How I Interpret Scripture

I look at 3 stanzas in St. Ephrem’s book ‘Hymns on Paradise’, as well as some of my recent episodes about Scripture and a short text from the Gospel of St. Matthew about St. Peter walking on water. Hopefully this can give listeners a clue as to how I draw different texts together to think about symbolism in Scripture. Hymns on Paradise: St. Ephrem the Syrian – Translated by Sebastian Brock: https://svspress.com/hymns-on-paradise-st-ephrem-the-syrian/ Original video: https://youtu.be/MedVllu0R2Y Support this podcast: Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau

23 Loka 202124min

181 - 2mørVs - Encountering the Unexpected

181 - 2mørVs - Encountering the Unexpected

2mørVs is a Flow-Fi music artist and has made music to cover audio clips of Jordan Peterson and myself. He recently made a whole album using one of my most pivotal talks titled Pentecost for the Zombie Apocalypse. The album is called Pentecost for the Zombie Apocalypse: The Musical. Today we take a look at a few music clips from the album and discuss his inspiration, how we both experienced the talk, Saint Christopher and what he means for the Church, Theosis, garments of skin, encountering the stranger and scientism. Enjoy! Check out 2mørVs’ work: -2mørVs & Jonathan Pageau - Pentecost for the Zombie Apocalypse: The Musical - GET THE ALBUM: https://fanlink.to/PftZAtM (Original talk - Pentecost for the Zombie Apocalypse: https://youtu.be/zXOdlIXDsr8) -YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/2m%C3%B8rVs/videos -Spofity: https://spoti.fi/2luuFu8 -Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/user-220481948 Original video: https://youtu.be/4vA-ItUAxm4 Support this channel: Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau

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180 - Christianity Rebukes the Powerful

180 - Christianity Rebukes the Powerful

This podcast episode was taken from the July patron-only video. It looks at how part of how Christ fills the hierarchy of the world is by attacking the powerful for not participating in connecting that which is above with that which is below, not answering need, being hypocrites and not seeing the spiritual significance of their outer forms. Because the question of authority and revolution really riled up many people, I decided to make this public. Website and The Symbolic World blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com Merch: http://www.thesymbolicworld.store Join the conversation: Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Support: Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Social media links: Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau My website designers, Anomalist Design: https://www.anomalistdesign.com/

15 Loka 202117min

179 - Dr. Mario Baghos - The Immortal Emperor

179 - Dr. Mario Baghos - The Immortal Emperor

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau This is my second conversation with Dr. Mario Baghos, an Australian scholar and lecturer at St Andrew’s Greek Orthodox Theological College (Sydney College of Divinity). In this talk we explore in much more depth the notion of the Immortal Emperor, the Marble King or the Sleeping King legend that we see in the Byzantine tradition but also in other traditions. Ultimately we tie it in with a discussion about the apocalyptic motif in Byzantine thinking. This conversation is a complement to my previous talks with Richard Rohlin on universal history, especially The Apocalypse and the Return of the King (https://youtu.be/TyLFK7Lo0Zw) and the most recent discussion about Ethiopia, titled From Alexander the Great to Ethiopia (https://youtu.be/AkXcay54e6Q). Check out Dr. Mario Baghos’ profile page at St Andrew's for links to his work: http://www.sagotc.edu.au/faculty/dr-mario-baghos D. Mario Baghos’ book (Please feel free to leave a rating and/or review), From the Ancient Near East to Christian Byzantium: Kings, Symbols, and Cities: https://www.cambridgescholars.com/product/978-1-5275-6627-9 (Enter the code PROMO25 to at the checkout to redeem a 25% discount) Original Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSst-2ABm9I My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

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178 - July 2021 Q&A

178 - July 2021 Q&A

July 2021 Q&A Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoffbO_A2hM Support this podcast: Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau The podcast was edited by Justin Ward

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