From Blockchains To Mooncakes: Two Chinese Crypto Founders On The ICO And Bitcoin Exchanges Ban

Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week, we’re joined by Vlad, the leverage legend behind Lighter, a zk-powered DEX taking aim at Hyperliquid in the rising CLOB wars. We unpack the new Token Transparency Framework from Blockworks and whether self-regulation can fix crypto’s disclosure problem. Should VC wallets be public? Are market-making deals legally risky? And why do most projects still say nothing? Plus: Vlad explains how Lighter uses zero-knowledge proofs to enforce fairness and fight toxic flow—without harming retail. And Circle’s stock goes full meme mode, TikTok retail piles in, and Robert reveals he’s short. Is crypto finally growing up—or just evolving its chaos? Show highlights 🔹 Token Transparency Framework Debated – Blockworks’ 40-point voluntary disclosure system sparks industry-wide discussion on what teams and investors should reveal 🔹 Disclosures vs. Reality – Most projects don’t lie—they just don’t publish. The real problem isn’t fraud, it’s silence 🔹 VC Wallets Stay Dark – Debate over whether investor wallet addresses and cost bases should be disclosed; consensus: team vesting should be public, investor holdings still a gray area 🔹 Exchange Listings & Disclosures – Exchanges are considering using the transparency framework to prioritize listings, creating pressure for teams to comply 🔹 CLOB Wars Continue – Lighter joins the battle against Hyperliquid with zk-proven verifiability and zero-fee trading for retail 🔹 Lighter’s Architecture Edge – Built as a ZK L2 on Ethereum, Lighter pitches composability + security vs. Hyperliquid’s standalone stack 🔹 Fighting Toxic Flow – Instead of cancel-order tricks, Lighter adds subtle latency and fee mechanics to penalize HFT bots without harming retail 🔹 Dark Pools for DeFi? – Vlad teases ZK-based private order flow as a future feature, merging institutional behavior with onchain guarantees 🔹 DEX Future = Specialization – Vlad predicts no single winner: future DEXs will specialize in niches—memecoins, structured products, prediction markets 🔹 Circle Becomes a Meme Stock – Robert discloses his short position as retail pumps Circle to an $80B FDV off TikTok hype and the Genius Act tailwinds ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Robert Leshner, CEO & Co-founder of Superstate⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly  Guest ⭐️ Vladimir Novakovski, CEO & Founder of Lighter Token Transparency by Blockworks: https://blockworks.co/token-transparency  Timestamps 00:00 Intro 01:49 Token Transparency Report by Blockworks 04:17 Token Disclosures 08:52 Challenges and Future of Token Transparency 23:22 Circle Mania Continues 25:06 Circle Valuation and Market Reactions 30:15 CLOB Wars 36:52 Technical Architecture and Verifiability 47:04 Market Structure and Future of DeFi Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

26 Kesä 51min

As tensions flare between Iran and Israel, investors are watching oil, gold, and, of course, crypto. In this episode of Bits + Bips, the panel digs into the market response to war risk, the chances the Fed will actually cut rates, and how Circle’s IPO is being treated more like a meme stock than a fintech play. Plus: Why Scaramucci says we’re all living in a surveillance state  Whether stablecoins are being kneecapped by U.S. regulation  When altcoin ETFs are coming And what BlackRock’s Larry Fink secretly told Scaramucci about Bitcoin in 2021 👀 Sponsor: Bitwise James Seyffart, Research Analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence Alex Kruger, Founder of Asgard Noelle Acheson, Author of the “Crypto Is Macro Now” Newsletter  Anthony Scaramucci, Founder of SkyBridge US-Iran-Israel war Unchained: Bitcoin Dips Below $100K as U.S.–Iran Tensions Trigger $627M in Liquidations Polymarket: Will Iran close the Strait of Hormuz before July? WSJ: What Israel’s Soaring Markets Are Saying About the Iran War Macro WSJ: Fed’s Bowman Says She Could Support a July Interest-Rate Cut CNBC: Fed Governor Waller says central bank could cut rates as early as July FT: Jay Powell to push back on calls for Federal Reserve rate cuts as soon as July Stablecoins WSJ: Stablecoin World Opens Up to Main Street Banks The Block: Circle's post-IPO stock surge pushes market cap near Coinbase and USDC ETFs James upped the odds on a bunch of altcoin spot ETFs Timestamps: 🎬 0:00 Intro 🌍 2:51 Are there lessons in how the markets shrugged off the Iran-Israel conflict? 🔥 9:37 What flashpoints in the Middle East could ignite next 🛢️ 14:40 Will oil supplies remain safe? 💸 22:13 Are cracks finally forming in the Fed’s resistance to rate cuts? 📉 28:08 Why Anthony believes that Fed Chair Powell is playing politics with rates 🇺🇸 33:55 Whether TACO Trump or tough Trump will show up on tariff day 🎯 36:26 What Anthony says that people get wrong about Trump’s economic strategy 🏦 43:52 Why Circle’s IPO feels more meme than fintech and what Larry Fink once secretly told Anthony about bitcoin 👀 🚫 50:27 One thing that Anthony HATES about the GENIUS Act 📊 56:17 Why James is upping his odds on a wave of altcoin ETFs, but doesn’t expect many to be successful products Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

25 Kesä 1h 5min

Take the Unchained 2025 survey! unchainedcrypto.com/survey ------- Cross-border payments. Mobile money. Stablecoins. Crypto. Elizabeth Rossiello has lived through every cycle, not from a trading desk, but the front lines of African markets. Now, the founder of AZA Finance is selling her company to global fintech giant dLocal, a signal that the line between crypto and traditional finance is blurring fast. In this episode, she talks about: How stablecoins are powering 24/7 commerce in emerging markets Why new entrants keep failing to gain traction And how liquidity, not tech, will determine who wins this new game All that, plus the inside story of AZA’s journey from a Nairobi-based Bitcoin exchange to one of the most important fintech players in Africa. Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Bitwise Human Rights Foundation Xapo Bank Elizabeth Rossiello, CEO and Founder of AZA Finance Previous appearance on Unchained: BitPesa's Elizabeth Rossiello on Necker Island Links dLocal announces intention to acquire AZA Finance to strengthen AZA Finance: dLocal announces intention to acquire AZA Finance to strengthen presence in Africa and expand capabilities Bloomberg: Uruguay’s DLocal to Buy AZA Finance in Africa Push American Banker: What experienced payment execs can pass to a new generation The Startup Leap: Building A Remittance App for Africa’s $1tr Market | Elizabeth Rossiello | Aza Finance Jack Zhang of Airwallex tweet saying he doesn’t see “a single use case” for crypto Timestamps: 🎬0:00 Intro 🌍 3:30 What Africa’s early payments scene looked like and how Elizabeth launched the first Bitcoin exchange there 📲 10:54 How the continent’s payment rails evolved 🔥 16:15 How Western Union dropped its pricing after her company launched 💸 20:42 Why stablecoins became a game-changer for cross-border payments 📊 25:24 What the real volume drivers are 🌐 28:53 How crypto adoption in Africa shifted post-COVID 🤝 37:00 Why AZA decided to acquire two companies ⚠️ 38:46 How the FTX partnership hurt AZA 💼 41:37 How the dLocal deal came together behind the scenes 🔄 45:08 Why crypto and fintech are on a fast path to convergence 🏁 50:58 Which players Elizabeth thinks will win in the new payments race 📵 53:47 Why “mobile money” is still tough competition for crypto 💥 56:48 How USDT has an edge in emerging markets 🇨🇳 58:50 How China’s deep ties to Africa have shaped the game 🚀 1:01:37 What it’s been like to build AZA as a young woman founder in crypto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

24 Kesä 1h 18min

On Tuesday, JPMorgan announced that its blockchain unit is launching JPMD, a USD deposit token for institutional clients, on Base. That’s right: the world’s biggest bank by assets and the 12th largest company by market cap is putting real dollars onchain. JPMD isn’t quite a stablecoin, but it’s close. It represents actual dollar deposits at JPMorgan and will be used by institutional clients for blockchain-based transactions. The bank plans to run a pilot over the coming months and eventually expand it to other user groups and currencies, pending regulatory approval. To understand what this means for the broader crypto ecosystem (and why JPMorgan chose Base), we brought on Jesse Pollak, head of Base and Coinbase Wallet. In this episode, Jesse explains: Why JPMorgan (and Shopify) chose Base What deposit tokens are, and how they differ from stablecoins Why infrastructure is finally “ready” for institutions How Base scaled from 2.5 million to 35 million gas/sec What’s next for Coinbase users who’ll have one-tap access to onchain assets And Jesse’s response to the critics who said that Coinbase doesn’t give enough credit to Ethereum Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Ledn FalconX Jesse Pollak, Head of Base and Coinbase Wallet Unchained:  JPMorgan to Pilot ‘JPMD’ Token on Base Coinbase and Amex Team Up on Bitcoin Card as Exchange Reveals Broad Expansion Plans Comments on Bloomberg by Naveen Mallela, global co-head of the bank's blockchain division Kinexys by JPMorgan Timestamps: 🎬 0:00 Intro 🏦 1:49 What JPMD actually is 🔧 4:26 Why Jesse believes infrastructure is finally ready for institutional adoption 📊 7:03 Whether Base can handle global scale 💵 9:24 How JPMorgan plans to use deposit tokens in real-world blockchain transactions ⚖️ 11:22 Whether deposit tokens are a better model than stablecoins 🛠️ 16:59 Why JPMorgan chose to launch on Base instead of other chains 📉 19:00 How recent events served as a wake-up call for fintech and commerce 📲 22:22 Why Jesse is hyped about seamless access to onchain assets inside Coinbase 📈 25:47 How Coinbase plans to manage the chaos of token pumps and dumps 🌐 27:54 Jesse’s take on the criticism that Coinbase doesn’t show Ethereum enough love Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

20 Kesä 44min

Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week, we’re joined by Hyperliquid founder Jeff Yan, the quiet powerhouse behind DeFi’s fastest-growing exchange. With 75% of onchain perp volume, no VC money, and a $1B airdrop, Hyperliquid is rewriting what crypto protocols can be. We dive into Jeff’s minimalist strategy, the cancel wars with toxic flow, and the JellyJelly controversy that sparked a feud with CZ. Plus: HIP-3 and the future of permissionless perps, SPAC-style hype vehicles taking over Wall Street, and why stablecoin regulation just triggered a 40% rally in Circle stock. Is crypto evolving—or just getting financialized to death? Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pods, Fountain, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights 🔹 Jeff’s $1B Airdrop Playbook – How Hyperliquid bootstrapped dominance with no VC, no marketing, and the most beloved founder in crypto 🔹 75% of Onchain Perps? – Hyperliquid now controls 3/4 of all perp volume across chains—Jeff explains how they did it 🔹 Cancel Wars & Toxic Flow – The inside logic behind prioritizing cancels over taker orders—and why HFTs are mad about it 🔹 CZ vs. Jeff – JellyJelly drama, transparency debates, and a subtle protocol war with Binance 🔹 HIP-3 and the Future of Markets – Perps on anything? Jeff breaks down why HIP-3 is the biggest unlock yet for Hyperliquid 🔹 “We Don’t Track KPIs” – Jeff’s radical philosophy on metrics, token price, and building products without back-propping for growth 🔹 Real Users vs. Predators – Who Jeff thinks actually matters onchain—and why some flow shouldn’t be welcome 🔹 Crypto SPAC Mania Begins – Tron, Tether, and Trump-adjacent vehicles bring public market chaos to token land 🔹 Genius Act Passes, Stocks Explode – Coinbase +20%, Circle +40%—but crypto tokens barely move: Why is Wall Street frothier than DeFi? 🔹 Are Perps the New Casino? – The crew debates why people love zero-DTE options, and if perps can replicate the lottery thrill ⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly ⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly  Guest ⭐️ Jeff Yan, CEO and co-founder of Hyperliquid Timestamps 00:00 Intro 02:51 Hyperliquid's Market Dominance 05:14 The Philosophy Behind Hyperliquid's Success 07:44 Challenges with Decentralized Exchanges 09:34 Metrics and Success in Hyperliquid 12:59 Addressing Market Dynamics and User Types 22:50 Competitive Pressures and System Resilience 25:28 Exploring Hyperliquid's Future and HIP 3 36:08 Complexity in Zero-Day Options 38:40 Perpetual Contracts vs. Options 41:24 The Role of User Interfaces in Trading 45:08 Crypto SPACs and Market Trends 57:21 The Genius Act and Market Reactions HostsDisclosures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

20 Kesä 1h 8min

In this week’s episode of Bits + Bips, the panel digs into why Tron’s rumored IPO is more than a headline, what Wall Street’s quiet shift into stablecoins signals, and how exchanges are racing to control token flow, even as regulation hangs in the balance. They also explore: What the Israel–Iran conflict means for global markets, oil prices, and crypto positioning Whether banks can adopt stablecoins without threatening their own deposits If regulatory clarity will come fast enough to shape the next crypto phase How to tell if ETH’s revival has staying power Sponsors: Bitwise Hosts: Ram Ahluwalia, CFA, CEO and Founder of Lumida Steve Ehrlich, Executive Editor at Unchained Guests: Christopher Perkins, President of CoinFund Vishal Gupta, Cofounder and CEO of True Markets. Links Tron and Justin Sun FT: Crypto group Tron to go public after US pauses probe into billionaire founder Unchained: Eric Trump Claims No Public Involvement in Tron’s Nasdaq Entity The Guardian: Crypto entrepreneur eats banana art he bought for $6.2m Israel - Iran WSJ:  Israel Takes Control of Iran’s Skies—a Feat That Still Eludes Russia in Ukraine How Israel’s Mossad Smuggled Drone Parts to Attack Iran From Within Stablecoins and TradFi Unchained:  JPMorgan Files ‘JPMD’ Trademark, Hints at Bigger Crypto Offering Coinbase and Amex Team Up on Bitcoin Card as Exchange Reveals Broad Expansion Plans Bloomberg: Bessent Says $2 Trillion Reasonable for Dollar Stablecoin Market. WSJ: Walmart and Amazon are considering launching U.S. dollar-pegged stablecoins  Reuters: French Societe Generale became the first major bank to launch a dollar-pegged stablecoin The Information: Financial markets giant DTCC is exploring a stablecoin, according to The Information Regulation Unchained: White House Rejects Ban on Conflicts of Interest in Crypto’s CLARITY Act Timestamps: 🎬 0:00 Intro 📰 4:18 Why Tron’s potential IPO creates a dilemma for investors, and how Justin Sun’s Trump ties play into it 🛡️ 15:58 Should exchanges like Coinbase let investors trade whatever they want? 🏦 20:47 The reason why crypto treasury companies even exist 📊 25:59 What is driving the fierce competition among exchanges 💵 34:18 Can JPMorgan, Bank of America, and other TradFi giants succeed with stablecoins? 🤔 37:58 Will stablecoins cannibalize banks’ own deposit bases? 🌍 45:51 How the Iran–Israel conflict could shake macro markets and crypto sentiment 🚀 55:37 Why Ram and Chris are calling for an ETH breakout 📜 57:47 What are the risks if crypto regulation fails? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

18 Kesä 1h 8min

Hyperliquid is one of the most talked-about platforms in crypto right now. It’s an onchain perpetuals exchange that sidestepped VCs, built a deeply loyal user base, and launched with transparency most rivals avoid. But it’s also staring down some massive challenges—from incoming competitors like Coinbase and Robinhood, to the technical hurdles of decentralizing its core exchange engine. Arthur Hayes, CIO of Maelstrom and one of crypto’s most iconic traders, and Hanson Birringer of Flowdesk discuss: What actually drove Hyperliquid’s success How a user-first approach is outpacing venture-backed models Whether the James Wynn saga was legit Why the HIP-3 proposal could be the “holy grail” for DEXes And whether Hyperliquid can survive its next big test: the entrance of giants Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Xapo Bank Bitwise Guests: Arthur Hayes, CIO of Maelstrom Hanson Birringer, Head of US Sales at Flowdesk Links Stats: CoinGlass: Total BTC Futures Open Interest Hyperliquid Stats James Wynn Unchained: Hyperliquid Trader Makes $87M in 70 Days, Loses It In Five James Wynn’s address  Transparency Hyperliquid’s founder’s post on X saying that he felt like transparency results in better execution for whales compared to on private venues. Hyperliquid vs Binance: Unchained: Hyperliquid Saved Itself a $15 Million Loss, but Sparked Criticism Arthur Hayes’ tweet on whether $HYPE perp volumes will flip Binance’s this cycle. CZ’s tweet on dark pool DEXs Cointelegraph: Binance co-founder CZ proposes dark pool DEXs to tackle manipulation Tokenomics: DL News: Hyperliquid’s token buyback machine just hit $1b — is it sustainable? HIP-3: Hyperliquid Docs: HIP-3: Builder-Deployed Perpetuals Timestamps: 🎬 0:00 Intro 🔥 3:25 Why Arthur says the future of perps is onchain—and what that changes 🚀 6:58 How Hyperliquid managed to climb the ranks without VCs 🧱 9:45 Whether being its own L1 gives Hyperliquid an edge 🔍 12:44 How Hanson adapts market making in a fully transparent environment 🕵️‍♂️ 16:40 Why Arthur doesn’t buy the James Wynn story 💸 20:56 Whether the types of traders on Hyperliquid are different than on other venues ⚔️ 22:14 How Hyperliquid could defend itself when Coinbase and Robinhood enter the arena 🔐 26:18 What Arthur and Hanson think about Jeff Yan’s post saying transparency benefits users 🐙 32:59 Did Binance and OKX try to sabotage Hyperliquid during the $JELLY event? 📊 38:24 Arthur answers his own question of whether Hyperliquid takes on Binance’s trading volume 🌘 42:20 Whether dark pool DEXes can fix transparency without killing decentralization 🔧 47:15 Why Hanson thinks the security FUD around Hyperliquid is overblown 🌏 50:20 Whether Asia’s crypto communities care less about decentralization 🧠 52:34 How Hyperliquid’s ecosystem play with HyperEVM could reshape its future 🏆 55:52 Why Arthur calls HIP-3 the “holy grail” for DEXes 🪙 1:00:01 Whether the HYPE buyback program is a good idea 📈 1:02:49 What Hyperliquid must get right as Coinbase and Robinhood show up Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

17 Kesä 1h 20min

Stablecoins are having a moment. From Stripe’s acquisition of crypto wallet startup Privy, to Shopify integrating USDC, to Plasma raising $500 million for its stablecoin-optimized sidechain, stablecoins are having a moment. And at the center of it all is Circle, which had one of the most successful IPOs in decades. But what’s really happening under the surface? And who’s best positioned as stablecoins go mainstream? Vicky Fu, co-founder at Yala and former engineering director at Circle, joins Unchained to explain: How she saw Circle as deeply undervalued before the IPO buzz What Stripe’s crypto moves signal for the broader market Why retail payments could become stablecoins’ breakout use case How network effects give Circle a serious edge, even as banks circle the space Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Ledn FalconX Human Rights Foundation Guest Vicky Fu, co-founder at Yala  Links Unchained: GENIUS Stablecoin Bill Advances in U.S. Senate Bloomberg: Bessent Says $2 Trillion Reasonable for Dollar Stablecoin The Block: Payment giant Stripe to buy crypto wallet firm PrivyMarket Payment giant Stripe to buy crypto wallet firm Privy CoinDesk: Crypto startup Plasma’s XPL Token Sale Hits $500M as Investors Chase Stablecoin Plays The Block: Plasma doubles its deposit cap, clarifies it is eyeing $50M public sale at $500M FDV Reuters: Societe Generale becomes first major bank to launch dollar-pegged stablecoin The Information: Financial Markets Giant DTCC Explores a Stablecoin  Timestamps: 🎬 0:00 Intro 🔍 2:40 Why Vicky believed Circle was deeply mispriced BEFORE the IPO hype 🏗️ 11:336 How Circle’s quiet infrastructure play is more powerful than it looks 🛒 17:40 Why the Shopify–USDC integration could be a turning point 💼 19:14 What Stripe’s acquisition of Privy signals 🔥 23:42 What the Plasma ICO reveals about surging interest in the sector 🏦 29:50 Whether crypto-native issuers can really compete with banks entering the stablecoin race 📰 34:10 Weekly News Recap Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

13 Kesä 48min