94. Breaking Point: Mary Ann Holder

94. Breaking Point: Mary Ann Holder

Desperate and depressed with the feeling of being overwhelmed is way too real for a lot of us. This is a case when the worst that can happen, does. Listen to Cam and Jen discuss the events that lead to Mary Ann Holder's breaking point.If you have feelings of wanting to hurt yourself or others please call the Suicide HotlineIn the United States call 1-800-273-8255For all other countries, here is a link to a list of numbers International Suicide Hotlines by Country on Suicide.org http://www.suicide.org/hotlines/international-suicide-hotlines.htmlThis episode was researched and written by E.J. HammonE.J. Hammon is a North Carolina writer who is fascinated with serial crime and the psychology behind it. With over a decade of experience writing her blog Confessions of a Bundyphile, https://bundyphile.com/E.J. has a unique perspective into the mind of brutal serial killer, Ted Bundy. Her work on Bundy has been featured on Bizarrepedia, the True Crime Guy web site, and she wrote Season 3 of the hit crime podcast, Criminology. (Today she adds the “Our True Crime” podcast to her list of credentials.) She is currently working with French author Fabien Richard on a book featuring the voices of Ted Bundy’s victims, survivors, and various law enforcement officials who interacted with him. The book is expected to be published sometime next year under the title “Ted Bundy: Memories of the Beast.” She can currently be found on Facebook and Twitter @RoseDysfunction.Listener discretion by our long time spooky friend, Edward from @octoberpodvhshttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZQk-oAsjZNG18y8bX24c6wProduced and musical score by the extremely talented and one of OTCP's bestie, Nico Vitessehttps://wetalkofdreams.com/Sources: Daily Mail Reporter. (2011, November 23). "Jilter lover who went on bloody rampage 'gave ex-boyfriend $10,000 cheque to prevent his wife since her' day before the massacre." https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2065437/North-Carolina-shootings-Mary-Ann-Holder-gave-ex-10-000-cheque-prevent-wife-suing-day-massacre.htmlDiranian, S. (2017, June 13) "The Meaning of Being a Mother." www.hellomotherhood.com/article/536071-the-meaning-of-being-a-mother/"Filicide" Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filicide Friedman, S. (2007, October) "Child murder by mothers: patterns and prevention." www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2174580Harvard Health Blog. (2011, March) "What pushes a person to commit suicide?" www.health.harvard.edu/mind-and-mood/what -pushes-a-person-to-commit-suicideHuffington Post. (2012, December 19) "Mass Shooting Psychology: Spree Killers Have Consistent Profile, Research Shows." www.huffpost.com/entry/mass-shooting-psychology-spree-killers_n_2331236 Investigation Discovery. (2017, September 28) "Psychology of a Murder-Suicide: What makes a person kill, then kill themselves" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Innocence Destroyed: The Wesson Family Horror Day 9: 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

Innocence Destroyed: The Wesson Family Horror Day 9: 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

On the 9th Nightmare Before Christmas... On the afternoon of March 12, 2004, a quiet Fresno street exploded with panic. Twenty-five-year-old Sofina Solorio stood outside the boarded-up home where she’d once lived, screaming for Marcus Wesson to release her children. Her cousin, Ruby Ortiz, shouted beside her. Both women had grown up under Wesson’s rule. Both had borne him children. Now they wanted them back. Relatives crowded the curb, furious and ready to force their way in. Inside, Wesson’s family gathered at the windows, shouting back with a strange, fevered devotion. “Judas! Judas!” “Bow down to your master!” When Fresno police arrived, the chaos only deepened. At the center stood Marcus Wesson, fifty-seven, nearly 300 pounds, his graying dreadlocks hanging to his knees. He was eerily calm, answering questions in a soft, measured voice. Officers believed they were dealing with a tense custody dispute. Then Wesson asked for one thing: to say goodbye to the children. He closed the door behind him. Join Cam and Jen on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled "Innocence Destroyed: The Wesson Family Horror." Thank you to our fantastic team: Listener discretion by Edward October @octoberpodVHS. Executive Producer/Music @theinkypawprint. Sources:  https://www.crimelibrary.org/noto rious_murders/family/marcus_wesson/13.html https://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/04/22/wesson/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/many-questions-in-fresno-slayings/ https://web.archive.org/web/20190827142254/https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2005-jun-30-me-wesson30-story.html https://abc30.com/post/marcus-wesson-mass-murder-children-killed-convicted-murderer/14518182/ https://abc7.com/archive/7540458/ https://www.amazon.com/Marcus-Wesson-Horrific-Fresnos-Murderer/dp/1703797760 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jury-gives-death-to-killer-dad/ https://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/04/22/wesson/ https://www.foxnews.com/politics/will-jerry-brown-commute-sentences-of-every-death-row-inmate-in-one-of-his-last-acts-as-california-governor https://www.nydailynews.com/news/justice-story/justice-story-vampire-king-article-1.1621606 http://www.cbsnews.com/news/dad-guilty-of-killing-his-9-kids/ http://www.daily-journal.com/life/wesson-massacre-largely-forgotten/article_389f9b7f-4237-511d-a6b7-b003bddc088a.html https://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/marcus-wesson-mass-murder-surviving-family-speaks-abuse/story?id=11089648 https://abc30.com/marcus-wesson-mass-murder-children-killed-convicted-murderer/14518182 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

21 Joulu 202531min

 A Marine Without Mercy: Andrew Urdiales Day 8: 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

A Marine Without Mercy: Andrew Urdiales Day 8: 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

On the 8th Nightmare Before Christmas… Andrew Urdiales grew up in a troubled home, facing abuse that shaped a deep anger inside him. After serving in the Marines, he turned that rage outward, stalking and murdering women across California and the Midwest. For over a decade, he left a trail of victims that left police struggling to track him down. Join Cam and Jen as they discuss “A Marine Without Mercy: Andrew Urdiales.” Thank you to our incredible team: Listener Discretion by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Edward October ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Research & Writing by Lauretta Allen Executive Producers Nico & Jesse of The Inky Pawprint Sources https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/news/2018/11/05/two-condemned-inmates-deaths-being-investigated-as-suicides/ https://enewspaper.latimes.com/infinity/article_share.aspx?guid=1e8a0fba-d064-4e7e-954a-ae9607be1273 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Urdiales https://murderpedia.org/male.U/u/urdiales-andrew.htm (the court transcript from his appeal is located on this page under "opinion." https://www.newspapers.com/image/664943243/?match=1&terms=Andrew%20Urdiales https://www.newspapers.com/image/503452488/?match=1&terms=Andrew%20Urdiales https://www.aetv.com/shows/i-survived-a-serial-killer/season-1/episode-1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

20 Joulu 202535min

Abducted in Idaho: Groene Family Massacre Day 7: 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

Abducted in Idaho: Groene Family Massacre Day 7: 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

On the 7th Nightmare Before Christmas... Coeur d’Alene, Idaho, is the kind of place that sells serenity. Nestled in the lush green folds of the state’s northern panhandle, its glittering lakes and cozy resorts draw tourists each summer, while locals call it the Lake City. It’s a place where doors stay unlocked, where evenings hum with crickets, and where danger feels far away. Eight miles east of town, near the Wolf Lodge campground, a small, weathered house sat back from the road—nearly hidden by the trees. In 2005, it was home to 37-year-old Mark McKenzie, his girlfriend, 40-year-old Brenda Groene, and Brenda’s three children: 13-year-old Slade, 9-year-old Dylan, and 8-year-old Shasta. The family lived their days filled with school, work, and play. Their back door was almost always unlocked. But on the night of May 15, 2005, that small gesture of safety and comfort would be the very thing that destroyed them. That night, a man named Joseph Edward Duncan, 42, slipped through the open back door. He was dressed in dark clothing, wearing black leather gloves, and carrying a shotgun. Along with the gun, he brought duct tape, zip ties, and a claw hammer. The family was asleep. Duncan knew they would be. He had been watching them for days. He’d first noticed Dylan and Shasta playing outside in their swimsuits—laughing, carefree, the way children should be. Something in his twisted mind fixated on that moment. In the quiet town of Coeur d’Alene, a single open door had invited a nightmare that would leave five lives shattered—and shadows that would never lift. Join Cam and Jen on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled "Abducted in Idaho: Groene Family Massacre." Thank you to our incredible team: Listener discretion by Edward October @octoberpodVHS Executive Producer/Music @theinkypawprint Sources:  https://rivcoda.org/community-info/news-media-archives/convicted-serial-killer-who-murdered-10-year-old-beaumont-boy-24-years-ago-dies-in-indiana https://web.archive.org/web/20110510093816/http://spokesmanreview.com/sections/duncan/?ID=258599 https://web.archive.org/web/20240616142947/https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/brother-of-molester-duncan-speaks-for-first-time/ https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2005/jul/06/duncans-history-by-age-17-he-fit-definition-of-a/#:~:text=In%201980%2C%20a%20psychological%20evaluation,definition%20of%20the%20sexual%20psychopath.%E2%80%9D https://meaww.com/who-was-joseph-edward-duncan-crimes-serial-killer-dies-idaho-groene-family-death-row-brain-cancer https://web.archive.org/web/20110510094245/http://spokesmanreview.com/sections/duncan/?ID=79500 https://www.foxnews.com/story/convicted-child-killer-joseph-duncan-gets-6-life-sentences https://web.archive.org/web/20220219180530/https://casetext.com/case/us-v-duncan-3 http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2011/07/11/08-99031.pdf https://archive.today/20120721053927/http://www.bonnercountydailybee.com/news/local/article_cbcf5288-ac50-11e0-9115-001cc4c002e0.html https://abc7.com/archive/8015571/ https://5nchronicles.blogspot.com/2020/07/day-to-day-on-federal-death-row-for-me.html http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2016/oct/24/shasta-groene-wants-sex-offenders-to-spend-life-be/ https://web.archive.org/web/20110510100116/http://spokesmanreview.com/sections/duncan/?ID=154916 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

19 Joulu 202544min

 Down at the Sunset Strip: Douglas Clark & Carol Bundy Day 6: 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

Down at the Sunset Strip: Douglas Clark & Carol Bundy Day 6: 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

On the 6th Nightmare Before Christmas… The Sunset Strip was famous for music, bright lights, and big stars, but in the late 1970s and early 1980s, it also became the hunting ground for Douglas Clark and Carol Bundy. They seemed like a normal couple, but behind closed doors, they were obsessed with control and murder. Together, they lured young women and committed terrible crimes that shook the city. Carol’s love for Douglas and his dark urges made them a dangerous team. Their account shows how quickly obsession can turn deadly. They brought nightmares to a place where dreams are made. Join Cam and Jen as they discuss “Down at the Sunset Strip: Douglas Clark & Carol Bundy.” Thank you to Mina for the request. We have the most incredible team: Listener Discretion by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Edward October ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Research & Writing by Lauretta Allen Executive Producers/Music by @theinkypawprint Sources: https://www.findagrave.com/virtual-cemetery/1296233?page=1#sr-111563846 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Clark_(serial_killer) https://law.justia.com/cases/california/supreme-court/4th/3/41.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwkIeADt-Ak (World's Most Evil Killers Season 5 Episode 15) https://murderpedia.org/female.B/b/bundy-carol.htm  (A ton of information on this site.) https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/278664481/john-robert-murray https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/106907056/carol_mary-bundy/photo https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/260609377/douglas-daniel-clark Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

18 Joulu 202555min

The Killer Wore Flip-Flops: Wild Bill Holbert Day 5: 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

The Killer Wore Flip-Flops: Wild Bill Holbert Day 5: 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

On the 5th Nightmare Before Christmas... In the summer of 2005, a North Carolina couple slipped away to their Oak Island beach house for a quiet weekend—only to find a stranger renovating their living room. Power tools hummed, drywall dust floated in the air, and the man in work boots calmly insisted the property was his. He even produced a deed, complete with signatures and a tidy paper trail. According to the stranger, he had bought the home from a North Carolina doctor, Dr. William Holbert, for the unbelievable price of $200,000, barely half its value. Holbert, he claimed, was liquidating his sick grandmother’s home in a hurry. But the story cracked quickly. Holbert and his partner, Laura Reese, had already vanished, and the cash from the fraudulent sale had funded their next home in Louisa, Kentucky. By the time investigators arrived, the couple was gone without a trace. It was far from over because wherever Holbert went next, terror followed—and the bodies stacked quietly behind him. Join Cam and Jen on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled "The Killer Wore Flip-Flops: Wild Bill Holbert: Day 5:12 Nightmares Before Christmas". Thank you to our incredible team: Listener discretion is by Edward October @octoberpodVHS. Executive Producer/ Music@theinkypawprint  Sources:  https://web.archive.org/web/20100730225302/http://www.panama-guide.com/article.php/20100728195827437 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-10874340 https://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/local/2017/08/15/serial-killer-wnc-native-wild-bill-sentenced-panama-5-murders/104613034/ https://www.amazon.com/Long-Live-King-Wild-Bill/dp/B09P2657C7 https://www.starnewsonline.com/news/20100729/oak-island-forgery-suspect-connected-with-up-to-20-murders-in-central-america https://news.sky.com/story/american-serial-killer-william-wild-bill-holbert-and-ex-wife-jailed-in-panama-10989198 https://www.reuters.com/article/world/us/american-accused-of-killing-5-to-face-panama-trial-idUSTRE67408I/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/05/william-holbert-panama-mu_n_671658.html https://nypost.com/2016/07/10/how-a-small-time-crook-became-a-ruthless-killer-with-a-passion-for-real-estate/ http://lithub.com/catching-wild-bill-and-jane-the-end-of-a-killing-spree-in-panama/# https://www.crimetraveller.org/2016/09/jolly-roger-social-club-william-holbert/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

17 Joulu 202521min

 In the Shadows: Oscar Ray Bolin Day 4: 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

In the Shadows: Oscar Ray Bolin Day 4: 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

On the 4th Nightmare Before Christmas… On a quiet Florida night, a patrolman sees two cars pulled over. Inside one, a clean-cut man and a woman who whispers, "I'm okay." The officer drives away, unaware he's just left a victim alone with her future killer. That moment was just the beginning. Oscar Ray Bolin left a trail of terror that stretched across Florida. He seemed ordinary, friendly, unassuming, someone you’d never suspect, but his dark side hid in plain sight. Join Cam and Jen as they discuss “In the Shadows: Oscar Ray Bolin.” We have the most incredible team: Listener Discretion by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Edward October ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Research & Writing by Lauretta Allen Executive Producers/Music by @theinkypawprint Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kvw2k42XT0 https://murderpedia.org/male.B/b/bolin-oscar.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Ray_Bolin https://allthatsinteresting.com/oscar-ray-bolin https://law.justia.com/cases/florida/supreme-court/2004/sc02-37-1.html https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/156825804/oscar_ray-bolin https://www.newspapers.com/image/321261395/?match=1&clipping_id=182527083 Obit for Natalie Holley https://www.newspapers.com/image/321261105/?match=1&clipping_id=182527381 discovery of Natalie's body https://www.newspapers.com/image/337978474/?terms=%22Natalie%20Holley%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/337978488/?match=1&terms=%22Natalie%20Holley%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/323050173/?terms=%22Natalie%20Holley%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/323050378/?terms=%22Natalie%20Holley%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/337973028/?terms=%22Natalie%20Holley%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/336703396/?match=1&terms=%22Stephanie%20Collins%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/336703435/?terms=%22Stephanie%20Collins%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/336717960/?match=1&terms=%22Stephanie%20Collins%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/321153755/?match=1&terms=%22Stephanie%20Collins%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/321153750/?terms=%22Stephanie%20Collins%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/336829954/?match=1&terms=%22Stephanie%20Collins%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/336830012/?terms=%22Stephanie%20Collins%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/336830111/?article=66114aac-0352-4e6f-87b5-71ee705b3b80&terms=%22Teri%20Lynn%20Matthews%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/321151367/?terms=%22Teri%20Lynn%20Matthews%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/336704359/?terms=%22Teri%20Lynn%20Matthews%22 https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/156205949/natalie-blanche-holley https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/34937887/stephanie_anne-collins https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/156206232/teri-lynn-matthews https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/fl-supreme-court/1720993.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

16 Joulu 202539min

The Lake Waco Murders Day 3: 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

The Lake Waco Murders Day 3: 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

On the 3rd Nightmare Before Christmas... On the sweltering evening of July 14, 1982, a call came into the Waco Police Department that would shatter the community’s sense of safety. Two teenage boys, fishing near the shores of Lake Waco at Speegleville Park, had stumbled across a scene no one could have imagined. Beneath a tree lay a teenage boy. His hands were bound tightly behind his back, a gag shoved into his mouth, sunglasses still shielding his eyes. His chest had been punctured repeatedly. Moments later, officers discovered two more bodies scattered across the park. In that moment, Lake Waco would forever be etched in the memory of a town that had lost its innocence. Join Cam and Jen on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast, entitled "The Lake Waco Murders." Murders: Day 3:12 Nightmares Before Christmas". Thank you to our incredible team: Listener discretion by Edward October @octoberpodVHS. Executive Producer/Music by @theinkypawprint  Sources:  https://web.archive.org/web/20160304075726/http://www.lakewacomurders.com/html/Melendez%20Pleads%20Guilty.PDF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_Lake_Waco_murders https://www.kwtx.com/2022/07/13/lake-waco-murders-40-years-later-attorneys-believe-wrongfully-convicted-man-executed/ https://www.nytimes.com/1997/07/25/opinion/the-wrong-man.html?src=pm https://www.amazon.com/Careless-Whispers-Lake-Waco-Murders/dp/0671646060 https://www.texasbar.com/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Texas_Gavel_Awards&Template=/CM/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=19539 http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl/1991_795370/conviction-overturned-inmate-now-seeks-a-job-deeb.html https://www.texasmonthly.com/true-crime/the-murders-at-the-lake/ http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/texas/article/3-decades-after-brutal-killings-last-defendant-10858867.php https://web.archive.org/web/20160304081445/http://www.lakewacomurders.com/html/indictments%20near%20teenagers%20deaths.PDF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

15 Joulu 202533min

Like Mother, Like Daughter: Korrina Malinoski & Annette Sagers Day 2: 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

Like Mother, Like Daughter: Korrina Malinoski & Annette Sagers Day 2: 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

On the 2nd Nightmare Before Christmas… In November 1987, Korrina Malinoski disappears without a trace, leaving her family and a quiet South Carolina town full of questions. Almost a year later, her eleven-year-old daughter, Annette Sagers, vanishes from a bus stop in Monck’s Corner. She leaves behind a short, mysterious note, but no other clues. No evidence. No witnesses. Only decades of unanswered questions.  Join Cam and Jen as they discuss “Like Mother, Like Daughter: Korrina Malinoski & Annette Sagers.” If you have any information about the disappearance of Korrina Korri Lynne Sagers Malinowski or her daughter, Annette Sagers, please contact the Berkeley County Sheriff’s Office at 803-761-7190 or 803-737-9000. We have the most incredible team: Listener Discretion by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Edward October ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Research & Writing by Lauretta Allen. Executive Producers/Music by @⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://theinkypawprint.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sources: https://www.newspapers.com/image/1037365115/?match=1&terms=%22Korrina%20Malinoski%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/195218856/?match=1&terms=%22Korrina%20Malinoski%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/665856682/?match=1&terms=%22Korrina%20Malinoski%22 https://www.newspapers.com/image/665856682/?match=1&clipping_id=176116906 https://www.newspapers.com/image/665856683/?clipping_id=176116947 https://charleyproject.org/case/korrina-lynne-sagers-malinoski https://charleyproject.org/case/annette-deanne-sagers https://www.oxygen.com/up-and-vanished/crime-news/steven-malinoski-denies-involvement-korrina-malinoski-disappearance https://fox28savannah.com/news/local/bring-them-home-secrets-in-the-swamp-explores-the-story-of-a-missing-mother-daughter-wciv-annette-korrina-sagers https://abcnews4.com/news/local/experts-take-new-look-at-berkeley-county-cold-case-of-missing-mother-11-year-old-girl https://youtu.be/TsGgOY_4c1A?si=YrjpQlaqjDbvPPOE https://youtu.be/7JgGm_sOG3o?si=BOd5LPVJLLPNR1vj https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Carolina_Lowcountry Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

14 Joulu 202536min

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