111. Binding Love: Brittany Kilgore

**Special thanks to APOSTROPHE for sponsoring this episode of OTCP.Today we venture back in time to 1931, Honolulu Hawaii. At this time, the beautiful land was home to native Hawaiians but also immigrants who traveled to Hawaii for its alluring beauty and a shot at a better life. Honolulu was also home to many US Navy Soldiers stationed there. These young men brought their families to this paradise. The serene lifestyle would be turned upside down one summertime evening when a- 20 year old young woman is found on the side of the road. Her name is Thalia Massie, wife to a naval officer named Thomas Massie. She has scratches and bruises all over her face and body and has been beaten up. What unfolds is a severe miscarriage of justice and how privilege and prejudice are stronger than any court of law. Join Jen and Cam as we discuss ‘Island of Injustice: Massie Trial’ on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast.Listener discretion is by Edward OctoberpodVHS. He is a wonderful storyteller-check him out.Our show’s music is courtesy of our executive producer Nico @wetalkofdreams. Sources: https://www.famous-trials.com/massie/308-commentaryhttps://www.enterprisenews.com/article/20120722/News/307229896https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/5239128/massie-case-revisitedhttps://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/island-murder-five-men-accused-assaulting-thalia-massie/http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/massie/peopleevents/p_thalia.htmlhttps://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/local/post-time-thalia-part-daughter-suicide-mother-unrepentant/baGwioS9z6GJAtjrU3W5CM/https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6217390/https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0771639/https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/5239128/massie-case-revisitedhttps://www.famous-trials.com/massie/310-rapetimelinehttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/hawaii-s-scandalous-thalia-massie-trial-a7921741.htmlhttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090749/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Stannard Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

5 Touko 202150min

What pops in your head when the state of Texas is mentioned? Cattle? Oil? Football? Music? Texas is the 2nd largest state in the United States and Austin, Texas always makes it on the best cities to live in lists.Another list that Texas has made isn't quite as positive. That is Rolling Stones November 2014 list of 5 Worst States for LGBT People.In the 1980s and 90s, queer-bashing was a popular pastime for some Texas high school kids. In just 10 years, 1988 to 1998, at least 28 gay men in Texas had been killed in a hate crime.Today Cam and Jen discuss the deaths of two of these men, John Lloyd Griffin and Tommy Lee Trimble.This episode was written and researched by Jeremy Wayne.Listener discretion by OctoberpodVHS https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZQk-oAsjZNG18y8bX24c6wTheme music and editing by Nico Vettesewetalkofdreams.comSources:https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/the-5-worst-states-for-lgbt-people-198931/https://books.google.com/books?id=UWMEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA37&lpg=PA37&dq=gay+bashing+in+texas+since+1988&source=bl&ots=wmGoPGXlWo&sig=ACfU3U35tY34977QkdxEAwRoZxkrPtd4dg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjpqZyLh6DwAhXmMlkFHRFlBfkQ6AEwBnoECAYQAw#v=onepage&q=gay%20bashing%20in%20texas%20since%201988&f=falsehttps://www.vanityfair.com/news/1995/02/texas-murder-199502https://www.khou.com/article/news/crime/breaking-down-texas-hate-crime-laws/285-2bf9d3c9-6a02-4fa5-873f-084bb360ea91https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc1584549/https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc1755439/m1/1/https://lgbt-history-archive.tumblr.com/post/153780039737/shame-on-you-judge-bednarski-drove-many-mileshttps://antifadallas.wordpress.com/2019/11/07/throwback-thursday-homophobic-killings-in-1988/http://www.texasobituaryproject.org/051588trimble-griffin.htmlhttps://www.nytimes.com/1988/12/17/us/texas-judge-eases-sentence-for-killer-of-2-homosexuals.htmlhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1988/12/17/judges-remarks-on-gays-protested/649e6016-616e-4a72-892e-b9775fafcdd9/https://apnews.com/article/4285a88eca4b1466b31081086ef54c93 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

28 Huhti 202158min

The Caffey family are resting peacefully in their beds in the Emory Texas home when all of a sudden someone bursts through the bedroom door. Shots ring out and both Terry Caffey and his wife Penny are being riddled with bullets. Terry jumps up from his bed even though he was shot and at that time, not even aware of how many times, he rushes out to go to his children. As he is attempting to get to the boys, he heard Matthew, age 13, cry out asking ‘why are you doing this? Why are you doing this?” Shots again ring out. Terry has made it into the hall and is trapped as fire is taking over the house. With nowhere else to go, Terry rushes back into his bedroom. It is at this time, he sees his wife Penny and knows it is too late for her: she is gone. When Terry was gone from the bedroom, a sword the family had on a wall for decoration, had been removed and used on Penny, nearly decapitating her. Terry, shot many times, is now running on adrenaline and knows he needs to get out, to get help because if he dies in this house, no one will know who committed this atrocity to his family. But he knows, he knows who it is and why they did it but what he doesn’t yet know will break his heart and shock the community. Join Jen and Cam as we discuss ‘Crazy in Love: Erin Caffey’ on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast. Please note this episode was previously released on our Patreon. Listener discretion is by the fabu Edward OctoberpodVHS @octoberpodVHSOur executive producer and composer is none other than the multi-talented Nico from @wetalkofdreams. Sources: https://murderpedia.org/female.C/c/caffey-erin.htmhttps://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/flesh-and-blood/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9j5hy83J5shttps://www.kltv.com/story/8132265/dad-wants-daughter-in-triple-murder-to-go-homehttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1287412/Haunting-rendition-Amazing-Grace-murderer-Erin-Caffey.htmlhttps://allthatsinteresting.com/erin-caffeyhttps://medium.com/@michrkarr/erin-caffey-was-16-years-old-when-she-made-plans-to-kill-her-entire-family-1fd87ff818c3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yEWL55W2vghttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt6189104/https://www.theforgivenessproject.com/stories/terry-caffey/https://www.oxygen.com/killer-couples/crime-news/erin-caffey-charlie-wilkinson-family-murder-dad-terry Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

21 Huhti 202149min

Clare is a divorced mom of two when love walked into her life. She wasn’t expecting it but welcomed it with open arms. At first, it seemed like the couple was happy but soon Ed’s behavior was beginning to seem strange. Marrying this man would soon become not only the biggest mistake she ever made but a deadly one as well. Join Jen and Cam of Our True Crime Podcast as we discuss the episode ‘Deceptive Love: Ed Graf.’Listener discretion is by the ominous @octoberpodVHS.The show is executive produced and edited as well as all music is by the worldly @wetalkofdreams. Sources:https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-man-burned-sons-alive-1986-parole-article-1.1983381https://wacotrib.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/experts-to-testify-in-ed-graf-arson-murder-case-from-1980s/article_2df8e1f4-5f31-5b21-92e1-aa8f681c0e83.htmlhttps://wacotrib.com/news/crime/judge-sets-1-5-million-bond-for-graf-while-awaiting-new-trial/article_110d8266-2adc-5d42-a60d-c7de14b7e67f.htmlhttps://thecinemaholic.com/where-is-ed-graf-now/http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2015/08/ed_graf_arson_trial_texas_granted_him_a_new_trial_would_modern_forensic.htmlhttps://www.texasobserver.org/tag/ed-graf/https://thecinemaholic.com/where-is-clare-bradburn-now/https://dailytimes.com/promotions/article_3a094ae6-c81e-11e4-8cb0-735746c19272.htmlhttps://wacotrib.com/news/crime/inmate-graf-admitted-killing-boys-said-he-wishes-he-had-also-killed-their-mother/article_a6bebb36-2254-5711-845b-e77e95db36d6.htmlhttps://www.evesun.com/news/stories/2014-11-06/20307/Innocence-Project-re-trial-frees-murderer-Ed-Graf,-Jr.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2809635/Texas-man-released-prison-just-six-days-admitted-murdering-8-9-year-old-adopted-stepsons-locking-shed-setting-fire-1986.htmlhttps://www.texasobserver.org/the-arson-files-after-serving-25-years-ed-graf-may-finally-receive-new-trial/https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5489746/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

7 Huhti 202145min

Police were trying to bust a ring of thieves who were stealing yachts and then selling them. The detectives had received information that a yacht by the name of La Vita was stolen and was going to be docking nearby at Marina Bay Yacht Harbor in Richmond, just north of San Francisco. Detectives were waiting for this yacht to pull in and when it did, they wanted to have a little chat with the crew, in particular, a man by the name of Robert Denzil Kuns who they believed was involved in this. As the yacht pulled in, a man jumped out to tie up the boat. He was not Robert Kuns but another man by the name of William Leasure, an LAPD officer. Detectives were shocked to find one of their very on board but this was just the beginning of the end for Officer William Leasure in a shocking tale with a few surprises. Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast as we discuss ‘Gone Cop Gone Bad: Bill Leasure.’Promo by our friends at The Path Went Chilly @PathWentListener discretion is by the ever so gracious Edward October @octoberpodVHSAll music is by Nifty Nico @wetalkofdreams -we like him so much, we made him our executive producer as well. Sources: https://murderpedia.org/male.L/l/leasure-william.htmhttps://www.amazon.com/Murderer-Badge-Secret-Rogue-Crime/dp/0451404025https://medium.com/crimebeat/the-secret-life-of-an-veteran-officer-d896fb9b09abhttps://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-10-27-tm-1150-story.htmlhttps://news.yahoo.com/william-bill-leasure-california-traffic-000110072.htmlhttps://www.upi.com/Archives/1987/12/27/Veteran-cop-his-prosecutor-wife-suspects-in-crime-spree/3166567579600/https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-08-04-me-623-story.htmlhttps://oklahoman.com/article/2213235/ex-guard-guilty-in-1977-slayinghttps://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-04-16-me-246-story.htmlhttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt7984222/?ref_=tt_chhttps://medium.com/crimebeat/the-secret-life-of-an-veteran-officer-d896fb9b09ab#:~:text=A%20mild%2Dmannered%20cop%20hid%20a%20big%20secret%20from%20everyone.&text=William%20married%20Betsy%20Mogul%20in,a%20law%20enforcement%20power%20couple. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

31 Maalis 202157min

In 1980, 32-year-old Virginia Uden and her two sons, 11-year-old Richard and 10-year-old Reagen, left for a day of fun but when they still had not arrived home, Virginia’s mother knew something was not right. After a fruitless search, Virginia’s ex-husband Gerald and her mother Claire phone police to file a missing person’s report. What no one knew at the time, would be that the case would go cold for many years until a man came forward with a peculiar story involving another murder. Join Cam and Jen as we discuss ‘United in Murder: Gerald and Alice Uden’ on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast. Listener Discretion is by the enigmatic Edward October from @octoberpodVHS.Our music as well as our producer is the always nifty Nico @wetalkofdreams.This week’s promo is from our friends at @CorpusDelictiPC. Check them out.Sources: https://www.aetv.com/real-crime/gerald-alice-uden-murdershttps://ccheadliner.com/free/convicted-murderer-caught-in-chadwick-dies-in-wyoming-prison/article_8c7dc4cc-8e0e-11e9-b4cb-bf9e474dce00.htmlhttps://www.torringtontelegram.com/article/convicted-triple-murderer-asks-to-withdraw-confessionhttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/missouri-couple-accused-in-wyoming-of-killing-ex-spouses-2-kids-over-30-years-ago/https://trib.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/a-convicted-murderer-now-blames-his-dead-wife-for-the-killings-her-daughter-says-hes/article_2e0e5319-f227-5475-8164-6e0326987521.htmlhttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/missouri-couple-accused-in-wyoming-of-killing-ex-spouses-2-kids-over-30-years-ago/https://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/wyoming/man-tells-mother-he-hates-her-during-wyoming-murder-trial/article_880254f7-18ee-5894-897d-78e44363c4df.htmlhttps://www.gillettenewsrecord.com/news/wyoming/article_ad37f267-7c01-55db-bbec-bd9b9c3938ce.htmlhttps://thelanderjournal.com/story.php?id=14733&headline=uden-expresses-mixed-feelings-about-murder-of-ex-wife-two-sonshttps://ronfranscell.com/2019/06/18/geraldletter/https://murderpedia.org/female.U/u/uden-alice.htm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

24 Maalis 202138min

Ethan wrote us another great script! Thank you, Ethan!The Whitakers were a perfect family. They were well known in the affluent city of Sugar Land Texas. But things aren't always what they seem. On the evening of Dec. 10, 2003, the family of four were gunned down as they returned home from a celebratory dinner. Mom, Tricia Whitaker, a retired teacher, and her youngest son 19-year-old, Kevin, died from their injuries. The dad, Kent, and oldest son Bart survived. Originally, police thought the Whitakers had interrupted a burglar but what they uncovered was a conspiracy to commit murder.Join Cam and Jen as they discuss Killing a Lie: Bart WhitakerListener discretion by Octoberpod VHS https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZQk-oAsjZNG18y8bX24c6wProducer, editing and music by Nico Vettese https://www.wetalkofdreams.comWritten by Ethan Promo from Mike at Murder MileSources.https://medium.com/the-true-crime-edition/the-whitaker-family-murders-of-sugar-land-texas-885ff8468b0bhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP7SaEEjK4A&ab_channel=OWNhttps://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/02/23/texas-man-who-murdered-his-mom-and-brother-spared-just-minutes-before-execution/366265002/https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-death-row-inmate-could-be-spared-after-unusual-appeal-n850276https://tubitv.com/tv-shows/447932/s13-e43-family-interrupted?start=truehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Bartlett_Whitakerhttps://www.tdcj.texas.gov/death_row/dr_info/whitakerthomas.htmlhttps://abc13.com/bart-whitaker-execution-death-row-granted-clemency-sugar-land-murders/3123361/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

17 Maalis 202144min

Today we are beginning our case at the Del Mar Resort Hotel in Las Vegas and it is far from a resort. It is the kind of hotel that rents by the hour and adult movies are included in your room rental. The hotel has the usual cast of seedy characters that you expect on rotation. The Del Mar is no stranger to despair and darkness so on August 5, 1998, when a couple checks into the hotel and reports to the front desk that there is a putrid smell coming from the air conditioner, it is not out of the ordinary that someone may have died in the neighboring room. What was out of the ordinary was that the body was located inside the air conditioning vent making this not only a murder but the dead woman is at the center of what would become yet another huge scandal involving one of the richest American families ever to grace the East Coast. Join Jen and Cam on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast entitled ‘The Drug Addict, the Porn Star, and the Heiress: Pati Margello Murder.’Our listener discretion is by the incredible Edward October from @octoberpodVHS.Our music, as well as our executive producer, is the remarkable Nico @wetalkofdreams.Promo by our friend Linsey @stolenfrommepodSources: https://www.vanityfair.com/style/1999/09/dunne199909https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWnXbom3nhUhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3571685/Scandalous-DuPont-heiress-dies-aged-87-18-years-gardener-turned-husband-paid-Las-Vegas-murder-son-s-drug-addled-prostitute-girlfriend.htmlhttps://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1998-09-18-1998261062-story.htmlhttps://apnews.com/article/ec731fa00000fe8b6b9602340d979887https://lasvegassun.com/news/2004/may/27/du-pont-heiress-husband-dies/https://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/local/2016/05/02/dupont-heiress-pocked-scandalous-headlines-dies/83833334/https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2000-mar-17-mn-9910-story.htmlhttps://www.washingtonexaminer.com/crime-history-body-found-in-cheap-hotel-leads-to-du-pont-familyhttps://nsngrandehomestay.com/blog/dupont-family-today-a4ebffhttp://yhvdv.xsl.pt/zuvhttp://30liss.dyndns.co.za/Dean-Macguigan-Died9.htmlhttps://timarit.is/page/3039799https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/lisa-moseley-obituary?pid=179825019 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

10 Maalis 20211h 20min