Michael Levin and Joscha Bach: The Shape of Collective Thought

Michael Levin and Joscha Bach: The Shape of Collective Thought

Michael Levin and Joscha Bach explore the idea of a global mind, collective intelligence, agency, and how morphogenesis might shape cognition. They debate the boundaries between biology and computation, and consider what competence means for cells and societies.- 00:00:00 - Introduction- 00:01:55 - Bach and Levin discuss each other's work- 00:03:34 - Cells as neuron-like units- 00:07:15 - Software as control pattern- 00:10:55 - Academic disciplinary boundaries- 00:14:38 - Perceptron as brain toy model- 00:18:44 - Researcher identity- 00:20:10 - Podcast vs academia benefits- 00:30:04 - Drastic belief changes- 00:38:54 - Memory beyond brain- 00:45:06 - Engrams and storage- 00:47:30 - Transferring memory across species- 00:55:25 - Weissman's barrier- 00:59:25 - Notion of competence- 01:12:10 - Virtualization for unreliable hardware- 01:16:02 - Defining competence- 01:22:35 - Goals and teleology issues- 01:27:34 - Planarian goals and encoded instructions- 01:34:55 - Navigation in morphic space- 01:36:11 - One species' defect as benefit- 01:37:42 - Intelligence trap and bias- 01:39:05 - Applying each other's work- 01:52:25 - General intelligence necessities in cellsSPONSORS:- Drink Trade: 30% off at https://www.drinktrade.com/everything- Uncommon Goods: 15% off your first gift at https://www.uncommongoods.com/podcast/everything- Roman: 20% off first order at https://ro.co/curt- Masterworks: promo code theoriesofeverything at https://www.masterworks.art/toeRESOURCES:- YouTube link: https://youtu.be/kgMFnfB5E_A- http://theoriesofeverything.org- *New* TOE Website (early access to episodes): https://theoriesofeverything.org/- Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal- Crypto: https://tinyurl.com/cryptoTOE- PayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOE- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt- Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs- iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802- Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfP- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e- Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything- Michael Levin (Solo TOE podcast): https://youtu.be/Z0TNfysTazc- Michael Levin Theolocution With Chris Fields & Karl Friston: https://youtu.be/J6eJ44Jq_pw- Joscha Bach Theolocution With John Vervaeke: https://youtu.be/rK7ux_JhHM4- Joscha Bach Theolocution With Donald Hoffman: https://youtu.be/bhSlYfVtgww- Joscha Bach (Solo TOE podcast): https://youtu.be/3MNBxfrmfmI Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science. SPONSOR: I subscribe to The Economist for their science and tech coverage. As a TOE listener, get 35% off! No other podcast has this: https://economist.com/TOE FOLLOW: Substack | Spotify | YouTube | Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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David Bessis: What Mathematics Really Is and How to Learn It

David Bessis: What Mathematics Really Is and How to Learn It

What is mathematics, really? Mathematician David Bessis joins me to argue that math isn't about numbers in a Platonic realm or a meaningless game of symbols—it's a cognitive technology for rewiring yo...

23 Helmi 2h 18min

Erik Verlinde: Gravity Is Not Fundamental, It Is Entropic

Erik Verlinde: Gravity Is Not Fundamental, It Is Entropic

What if gravity is just entropy in disguise? Professor Erik Verlinde joins me to argue that gravity isn't a fundamental force—it's thermodynamic, emerging from quantum information the way gas pressure...

16 Helmi 1h 58min

Vitaly Vanchurin: The Universe Is a Neural Network That Learns

Vitaly Vanchurin: The Universe Is a Neural Network That Learns

What if physics is just the universe learning? Most Theories of Everything episodes are mind‑bending for their math, physics, philosophy, or consciousness implications. This one hits all four simultan...

9 Helmi 1h 58min

Rob Spekkens: Why the Quantum Wave Function Is Not Real

Rob Spekkens: Why the Quantum Wave Function Is Not Real

From Ancient Egypt to Leibniz... Brand‑new interview out with Robert Spekkens of the Perimeter Institute, one of the sharpest minds working on quantum foundations. In 2004, he constructed a classical ...

2 Helmi 2h 47min

Subir Sarkar: Why Dark Energy Is a Local Illusion

Subir Sarkar: Why Dark Energy Is a Local Illusion

Hot off the press, Professor Subir Sarkar makes the case that dark energy doesn’t exist (and he’s not being provocative for its own sake). He’s the former head of Oxford’s particle theory group, serve...

26 Tammi 2h 3min

Stuart Kauffman: There Is No Theory of Everything

Stuart Kauffman: There Is No Theory of Everything

This is an interview with Stuart Kauffman, one of the founders of complexity theory. He invented random Boolean networks at only 23 years old and helped establish the Santa Fe Institute. Now 86, he ma...

20 Tammi 1h 28min

Timothy Williamson: Modal Logic and the Nature of Knowledge

Timothy Williamson: Modal Logic and the Nature of Knowledge

Timothy Williamson (Oxford) challenges modal logic, epistemic possibility, and the nature of philosophical knowledge.As a listener of TOE you can get a special 20% off discount to The Economist and al...

13 Tammi 1h 57min

I’m Giving Away $5,000 to Explain Hard Physics (and AI)

I’m Giving Away $5,000 to Explain Hard Physics (and AI)

Host Curt Jaimungal launches #CORE1, a competition seeking high-level video explainers for physics, AI, and philosophy. If you're a researcher or student, you'll have a chance to win part of the $5,00...

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