William Hahn: When Will AI Machines Become Genuinely Conscious?

William Hahn: When Will AI Machines Become Genuinely Conscious?

William Hahn, director of AGI & AI Safety at Hahn AI, explores how artificial intelligence reshapes language, consciousness, and societal structures. He examines programmable mind metaphors, AI security, and the cultural shift toward emergent computation.- 00:00 - Introduction- 02:30 - AI’s Impact on Language and Human Thought- 05:10 - Mind as a Programmable System and Historical Metaphors- 08:45 - Society of Mind Theory and AI Agents- 11:30 - Consciousness, Awareness, and Metacognition- 15:00 - Free Will, Emotions, and Unconscious Programming- 18:40 - Brain as an Immune System and Handling Unthinkable Thoughts- 22:50 - Informational Parasites, Memes, and Nam Shub of Enki- 28:15 - AI Security: Vulnerabilities and Protecting Minds- 33:00 - The Cultural Shift: AI’s Influence on Psychology- 37:45 - Historical Secrecy in AI and Government Role- 42:30 - AI’s Evolution: Role of Data, Hardware, and Differentiation- 47:20 - Speculating on Hidden AI Capabilities and Advanced Systems- 51:10 - Richard Hamming’s Insights on Learning and Ambiguity- 57:10 - Revisiting Ancient Knowledge and Advanced Civilizations- 01:03:30 - Artifacts of Ancient Technology and Modern Interpretations- 01:09:10 - Defining Meaning, Spirit, and Information in AI- 01:14:35 - Wolfram’s Physics Model and Emergent Computation- 01:20:00 - Computational Models of Consciousness and Mind- 01:27:28 - Wolfram's Symbolic Language and Analog Computing- 01:34:00 - Agent-Based Programming and AI Evolution- 01:39:10 - Knowledge Gaps and Flat Earth as a Metaphor- 01:45:00 - Synesthesia, Music, and Human Perception- 01:52:24 - The Intersection of Software and Hardware- 02:00:02 - Complexity Crisis in Modern Technology- 02:06:00 - Optical Computing and AI's Future- 02:12:08 - Philosophical Reflections on AI and Consciousness- 02:20:00 - The Amorphous Boundary Between Software and Hardware- 02:28:00 - Technology, Religion, and the Need for a New Understanding- 02:37:15 - Outro / Support TOESPONSORS:- The Economist: 20% off discount - https://www.economist.com/toeRESOURCES:- Snow Crash (book): https://amzn.to/3zYqJb9- Center for the Future Mind (website): https://www.fau.edu/future-mind/- Archive of Alan Turing’s papers: https://turingarchive.kings.cam.ac.uk/- Richard Hamming’s lecture series: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2FF649D0C4407B30- Iain McGilchrist on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-SgOwc6Pe4- Gregory Chaitin on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guQIkV6yCik- Mindfest playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZ7ikzmc6zlOPw7Hqkc6-MXEMBy0fnZcb- Susan Schneider’s website: https://schneiderwebsite.com/index.html- Susan Schneider’s Google talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwVKXKlU1GU- William Hahn’s short course series: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKoZnCEAIkvkvyVpbqx71EMT8BLpD6Oaq- Ekkolapto’s Polymath project: https://www.ekkolapto.org/polymath- Ekkolapto’s event page: https://ekkolapto.substack.com/- HyperPhysics website: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/hframe.html- Joscha Bach and Michael Levin on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgMFnfB5E_A- Stephen Wolfram on TOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YRlQQw0d-4- Curt on Julian Dorey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1mKNGo9JLQ- Join my newly launched Substack: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com- Support TOE on Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal (early access to ad-free audio episodes!) Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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