Chat_119 - Why Nostr Will Win with Miljan

**"On nostr we have maybe a couple hundred thousand users who are active, but all all those users are holding their keys. We're actually bootstrapping this censorship resistant network. There isn't anything like that out there. Nostr is the only game in town when it comes to truly sovereign presence on the web."
- Miljan

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What does it take to create a user-friendly Bitcoin and Nostr experience that balances accessibility with the principles of sovereignty? In this episode, I sit down with Miljan to explore how Primal is pushing the boundaries of social media and micropayments. We dive into the challenges of custodial versus non-custodial wallets, how the zapping economy is transforming online interactions, and why mobile apps might hold the key to mass adoption.

Miljan shares the thinking behind integrating Bitcoin into everyday apps, solving spam with Nostr's web of trust, and designing a product that feels as polished as legacy platforms while staying true to decentralized values. Could this be the path to onboarding millions to Bitcoin without them even realizing it? Tune in for a fascinating look at how the game theory of Bitcoin is playing out in the wild.

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Guest Links
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• Miljan on Twitter (Link: https://x.com/mbraticevic)
• Miljan on Primal (Link: https://primal.net/miljan)

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