AppSec vs. ProdSec
The Security Table12 Syys 2023

AppSec vs. ProdSec

Chris Romeo, Matt Coles, and Izar Tarandach attempt to demystify the concepts of Application Security (AppSec) and Product Security (ProdSec). They find that even defining and differentiating both concepts is challenging. Various articles exist about AppSec and ProdSec, but the industry is generally confused about these terms. Discussing the role of hardware in product security initiates an animated debate. Questions arise about whether the presence of hardware makes something more of ...

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When Code No Longer Matters

When Code No Longer Matters

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23 Syys 36min

Why AI Cheats To Win

Why AI Cheats To Win

When Anthropic's Mythos 5 model believed it was working inside an isolated test environment, it built and published a real malicious Python package to PyPI while chasing a capture-the-flag goal — and ...

16 Syys 39min

When AI Escapes the Sandbox

When AI Escapes the Sandbox

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9 Syys 49min

The End of Bug Bounty As We Know It

The End of Bug Bounty As We Know It

We dig into Linus Torvalds' claim that AI is now a legitimate tool for the Linux kernel, and what it means for bug bounty platforms drowning in submissions, with Bug Crowd reporting a fourfold spike i...

5 Elo 42min

Make No Mistakes: Inside the First "Agentic Ransomware"

Make No Mistakes: Inside the First "Agentic Ransomware"

We dig into Sysdig's Jade Puffer report, the so-called first agentic ransomware, and argue about whether the evidence actually proves an LLM was driving the attack or if it's just a well-trained scrip...

22 Heinä 43min

Is Spec-Driven Development Already Dead

Is Spec-Driven Development Already Dead

In this episode, we take on spec-driven development, the resurgent idea that writing a detailed spec and letting AI implement it will finally give us the precision engineering promised us since the 19...

15 Heinä 41min

Don't Bury the Model T: Why STRIDE Still Drives in an AI World

Don't Bury the Model T: Why STRIDE Still Drives in an AI World

In this episode, we dig into two things the security community loves to argue about: npm finally doing the right thing and whether STRIDE has any business being called dead. The npm v12 changes gate d...

1 Heinä 59min

Mostly Dead or Mostly Back: The Zombie Resurrection of DAST in an AI World

Mostly Dead or Mostly Back: The Zombie Resurrection of DAST in an AI World

In this episode, we dig into whether DAST is dead, mostly dead, or quietly making a comeback dressed in an AI trench coat. The conversation traces the origins of dynamic application security testing f...

24 Kesä 42min