Inside The House Of Ruby Franke As Her Daughter Shares The Horror Story

Inside The House Of Ruby Franke As Her Daughter Shares The Horror Story

Shari Franke’s memoir, The House of My Mother: A Daughter’s Quest for Freedom, begins with a striking and unforgettable image: the moment police forced open the front door of her family’s home with a battering ram. Shari, the eldest daughter of the once-popular family vloggers behind the 8 Passengers YouTube channel, captured the moment on her phone and shared it on Instagram, writing, “This moment, this climax of my family’s descent into madness, needed to be documented, preserved, and shared on social media.” It was an act of reclamation—an attempt to wrest back control of her narrative from a life shaped by forced smiles and staged perfection. Today, with the release of her memoir through Gallery Books, Shari pulls back the curtain on the tabloid nightmare her family became.
Ruby Franke, Shari’s mother and the matriarch of the 8 Passengers channel, was arrested in 2023 along with her business partner, Jodi Hildebrandt. The two women were charged with multiple counts of aggravated child abuse after Shari’s younger brother escaped from Hildebrandt’s home and begged a neighbor for help. The boy, visibly malnourished and injured, revealed a harrowing story of being tied up with ropes and deprived of food. Inside Hildebrandt’s home, police discovered Shari’s younger sister in a similarly emaciated and injured state. The public’s collective gasp over these revelations was only the beginning. In The House of My Mother, Shari details how the Franke family’s carefully curated image of wholesomeness and faith unraveled behind the scenes, exposing the dark underbelly of a household where control, manipulation, and emotional abuse reigned.

Before the arrests, the Frankes had amassed nearly 2.5 million subscribers on YouTube, drawn to their idyllic portrayal of life as a large Mormon family. But Shari’s memoir reveals a far different reality. The transformation, she writes, began when Hildebrandt, a counselor with controversial methods, entered their lives. Hildebrandt’s influence over Ruby grew rapidly, shifting the family dynamics in alarming ways. “She was our family’s very own cult leader,” Shari writes. “She turned my mother into a fawning, starstruck acolyte who lapped up her every demented word like it was holy water.” Kevin Franke, Ruby’s husband and Shari’s father, was gradually pushed out of the household. According to Shari, Hildebrandt became the puppet master, dictating the family’s every move under the guise of therapy and spiritual guidance.

In a particularly disturbing episode, Hildebrandt took over Shari’s bedroom, filling it with candles and massage oils. Shari’s suspicions about a deeper relationship between her mother and Hildebrandt were confirmed one night when she saw Ruby sneaking out of her former room. “It was equal parts fascinating and horrific,” Shari recalls. “Two women who publicly condemned queerness in their ConneXions Classroom videos, while embodying it privately.” Hildebrandt’s teachings, presented as strict moral guidelines, included extreme punishments and bizarre rituals. Shari writes that these teachings justified the alienation of Kevin, who was sent away to “work on his shortcomings” while the children’s welfare deteriorated.

The memoir’s most heart-wrenching moments recount Shari’s growing concern for her siblings. Isolated from her family while attending Brigham Young University, Shari made repeated calls to the Department of Child and Family Services, desperate to have someone intervene. But it wasn’t until her brother’s dramatic escape that authorities finally acted. Ruby and Hildebrandt’s subsequent arrest and guilty pleas to four counts of aggravated child abuse brought an end to their reign of terror. Each woman was sentenced to four to thirty years in prison—a grim chapter in a story that continues to haunt the public consciousness.

Shari, now 21, has emerged as an advocate against the exploitation of children in family vlogging. Her experiences growing up in front of a camera have shaped her into a vocal critic of the practice, which she believes inherently violates children’s privacy and well-being. In her memoir and public statements, Shari argues there is no ethical way to monetize a child’s life online. “Making money off your kids with no oversight as to how much the kids are getting paid—there’s no way to do that well,” she asserts. Shari has taken her advocacy to the legislative level, supporting bills that protect underage influencers by guaranteeing them a share of their earnings. “It should be 100 percent,” she insists, though she adds that even financial compensation cannot undo the psychological damage inflicted by growing up with one’s life broadcast to millions.

The memoir also sheds light on Shari’s personal struggles, from suicidal ideation to a damaging relationship with a married church elder. She writes candidly about feeling unloved as a child and grappling with the immense pressure to perform for the camera. Her journals and old family vlogs, which she reviewed while writing the book, offer a painful juxtaposition: moments of apparent happiness on screen contrasted with behind-the-scenes misery. “It felt like it wasn’t my life,” Shari reflects. “The vlogs show smiling faces, but all I remember is the yelling between takes.”

Shari’s relationship with her father has begun to heal in the wake of the arrests. Kevin Franke, who describes his “invitation to leave” the family as “a hellish and abusive experience,” has acknowledged his role in the family’s exploitation. Shari appreciates his willingness to take responsibility, even as she remains critical of his past inaction. Her relationship with Ruby, however, is irreparable. In a letter sent from prison, Ruby reminisced about Shari’s childhood but failed to address the abuse. Shari’s response was resolute: “I don’t feel an emotional tie to her anymore.”

With the release of The House of My Mother, Shari hopes to close a painful chapter of her life while advocating for change. She’s on track to graduate from BYU with a degree in political science and plans to work in data analytics—far from the spotlight she once lived under. Her engagement, announced on Instagram, marks a new beginning. Yet, Shari’s mission to protect children from the harms of family vlogging continues. “I hope that by sharing my story, other child influencers will see that their voices matter,” she writes. “And that it’s worth whatever bridges they might burn.”

Shari’s memoir serves as both a personal catharsis and a rallying cry against a billion-dollar industry that thrives on the commodification of childhood. The question remains: will her story be the wake-up call needed to spark meaningful change, or will the cycle of exploitation continue? The public, it seems, is just beginning to reckon with the consequences of a life lived online.
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Did Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt's Connection To LDS Provide Cover For Crimes?

Did Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt's Connection To LDS Provide Cover For Crimes?

Is there a line between therapeutic practices and outright torture? Recent revelations about therapist Jodie Hildebrandt suggest that sometimes, that line can be terrifyingly blurred.    In a recent episode of the podcast "Hidden Killers," host Tony Brueski and former FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer delved deep into the shocking allegations surrounding Jodie Hildebrandt, a therapist embroiled in what's now being termed the "mommy blogger scandal."  Jesse Hildebrandt, Jodi's niece, made a startling revelation on Nightline, recounting traumatic experiences from her past. She claimed that Jodie would lock her in a room, forcing her to write out her sins. Even more disturbingly, Jesse alleged that she was made to sleep outside in the snow and was subjected to being duct-taped, preventing her from speaking to anyone.    Brueski posed a critical question: "Did this extreme behavior start to escalate when [Jodi] and Ruby [another individual connected to the scandal] hooked up together? Or has this been an ongoing torture therapy practice that she's been running forever?" Coffindaffer responded with a chilling certainty, "I was not surprised... It doesn't make any sense that such extreme torture would just have a sudden onset."    The conversation took a turn towards the normalization of such behavior, especially when it's practiced within a close-knit community. Coffindaffer explained, "I think it becomes a situation where all the parents that are involved sort of justify it to one another and reinforce this behavior amongst one another." The fact that Jodi Hildebrandt had amassed a following of 2 million people further solidified her methods in her mind, making her feel justified in her actions.    A significant point of discussion was Hildebrandt's connection with the LDS church. The church had, for a time, recommended Jodi as one of their top therapists. Brueski questioned whether this religious affiliation provided a cover for Hildebrandt, allowing her to continue her questionable practices under the guise of religious beliefs. Coffindaffer didn't mince words, stating, "There is no doubt that the LDS connection has to be considered, at least in terms of how this was able to continue and to go on."    The conversation highlighted a concerning trend: religious organizations sometimes becoming a haven for those wishing to perpetrate harmful actions, especially towards children. Coffindaffer, drawing from her experiences in Utah, pointed out that the majority of the community there follows LDS teachings. This includes law enforcement, court officials, and prosecutors. Such a homogeneous environment can sometimes make it challenging to bring to light and address extreme behaviors that cross the line.    In closing, Coffindaffer emphasized, "Not all LDS are that extreme, but some are." It's a reminder that while many may follow a faith or belief system, it's the extreme interpretations and actions of a few that can cast a shadow over the many. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

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WEEK IN REVIEW-Former Clients Of Jodi Hildebrandt Detail How She Ruined Their Marriages & Lives

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Ruby Franke Tried To Stalk Her Haters!

Ruby Franke Tried To Stalk Her Haters!

The famed YouTube family known as "8 Passengers", led by Ruby and Kevin Franke, are facing allegations of child abuse, leading to a dramatic unfolding of events that have left their 2.5 million subscribers and the world in shock.    Ruby and Kevin Franke built their online reputation by sharing their lives with their six children in Utah, giving a candid glimpse into their strict parenting style. However, the facade began to crack in May 2020, when their son Chad revealed in a video that as a consequence of a prank on his younger brother, Russell, he had been relegated to sleep on a beanbag for seven months. This revelation led to a significant backlash against the couple.    Many of their YouTube subscribers were horrified. To express their concerns over what they perceived as mistreatment of the Franke children, a petition was initiated. Garnering 17,000 signatures, the petition pushed for a Child Protective Services (CPS) investigation into the allegations of maltreatment. The Franke family was scrutinized in June 2020, when Ruby and her daughter Eve were visited by social workers. Despite the public outcry, the case was closed without the allegations being substantiated.    Nevertheless, the situation intensified, as irate followers sent angry text messages, spam emails, and even made late-night threats. The incident that really pushed things to a boiling point was when an unidentified individual with a concealed face showed up at their doorstep with a sinister message. Concerned for their family's safety, Kevin sought the help of David Corrington, a private investigator and a former special agent with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.    In a recent PEOPLE magazine issue, Corrington stated, "I think what really threw it over the edge was this person showing up in the middle of the night ringing the doorbell. That starts getting a little more personal and scary with the children being in the house." Despite Corrington's belief that several individuals were targeting the family, frustrations grew as they felt local law enforcement was not doing enough.    Allegations and concerns surrounding the Franke children's well-being did not dissipate. Over the subsequent months, calls to both the police and CPS poured in, alleging potential mistreatment of the children. The family's situation took a severe turn when their youngest son, Russell, was found with physical signs of maltreatment. Escaping from family therapist Jodi Hildebrandt's home in Ivins, Utah, where he was staying with his mother and sister, Eve, Russell reached out for help.    With grave injuries, malnourishment, and tales of abuse, Russell's revelations led to an immediate response from the Santa Clara-Ivins Police Department. As a result, both Ruby and Jodi were arrested on charges of aggravated felony child abuse. Held at the Washington County Purgatory Correctional Facility, both await their plea. Meanwhile, Kevin Franke, who had left the family home a year earlier, remains uncharged.    Corrington voiced his concerns over the systemic failings, stating, "It's unfortunate that it takes some of these extreme situations for the government to intervene. You certainly have to ask the question, why did this fall through the cracks in our system?"    As the case unfolds, many are left questioning how such a well-known family, with millions of viewers, could be at the center of such an alarming scandal. For many, Shari, the couple's estranged eldest daughter, summed up the collective feeling with a simple Instagram Story showing officers outside their family home with the caption: "Finally."    This scandal serves as a crucial reminder of the potential discrepancies between the polished facade of online personalities and the realities of their offline lives. In the digital age, where influencers and vloggers dominate social spaces, the need for discernment and vigilance becomes even more paramount.  Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

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How Mommy Bloggers Started a Cult Without Even Knowing It

How Mommy Bloggers Started a Cult Without Even Knowing It

Is it possible that in seeking help, one could inadvertently be led into a cult-like grip? A recent episode of the podcast "Hidden Killers" with host Tony Brueski and psychotherapist Shavaun Scott delves deep into such a case surrounding Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt. The revelations that emerge from their discussion underscore the crucial need for vigilance in the therapeutic community.    According to the dialogue, it appears Hildebrandt might have been practicing what some referred to as a cult-like form of therapy. The burning question: "Does anybody realize they're starting a cult when they're starting a cult?" is one that Shavaun Scott tackled head-on. "I do think it's the person... that is the focus or the genesis of something like that... a person who always is seeking power," Scott explains, identifying profound narcissism and sociopathic tendencies as key indicators.    Hildebrandt, whose practices are under scrutiny, reportedly made untraditional and potentially damaging diagnoses. Tony Brueski recounted how couples who approached her for marriage counseling got something entirely different. "A lot of separating people, a lot of diagnosing men with porn addictions when there wasn't one," he said, emphasizing the lack of recognition of such a diagnosis in the DSM 5, a standard classification of mental disorders.    Scott expressed her dismay at the revelation. "That is really what makes this a cult because she was making up her belief system as she went," Scott said. Her concern is palpable, as she mentions the "toxic craziness" that many might have been exposed to under Hildebrandt’s guidance. The horrifying truth, according to Scott, is the legitimacy that came with Hildebrandt's clinical license, which led people to trust her expertise, only to be led astray.    A pressing concern arises: how did Hildebrandt's practices go unnoticed for so long? Scott elaborates on the licensing procedures, which differ from state to state. "Usually, once a person is licensed, there's probably not a lot, if any oversight going on, unless there are complaints," she detailed. The primary role of licensing boards is to protect consumers, and they are obligated to investigate any complaints about licensed professionals rigorously. In Hildebrandt’s case, however, Scott questions the oversight and wonders whether the investigations were as thorough as they ought to have been.    Given the gravity of the charges against Hildebrandt and the harm caused to countless individuals seeking help, the need for more rigorous checks and greater transparency becomes clear. Trust is a foundational pillar in the therapeutic relationship. It's crucial for patients to know that when they reach out for assistance, they are in safe hands, guided by genuine expertise.    As the story unfolds and more people come forward with their experiences, there is hope for change. Scott passionately articulates this hope: "Lessons learned by the licensing board here." Yet, one can't help but wonder how many have been deeply affected by the dubious practices, and what it will take to ensure such situations are detected and addressed promptly in the future.    In a world where the lines between genuine care and manipulation can sometimes blur, how do we ensure that those seeking help aren't led astray? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

5 Loka 20236min

Former Clients of Jodi Hildebrandt Detail How She Ruined Their Marriages & Lives

Former Clients of Jodi Hildebrandt Detail How She Ruined Their Marriages & Lives

The line between cultic behavior and genuine therapeutic practices seems to blur when you dive deep into the controversial methods of Jodi Hildebrandt. A recent episode of "Hidden Killers" featuring Tony Brueski and former FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke raises the question: When does unchecked power and influence steer away from genuine care and into the dangerous realm of manipulation?    Jodi Hildebrandt, before her arrest, served as a licensed counselor. Disturbingly, she was recommended by the Mormon Church for her counseling services up until 2012. The church's withdrawal of endorsement came on the heels of Hildebrandt violating HIPAA rules, unveiling confidential information about a patient.    Emerging stories from former clients reveal a troubling pattern in Hildebrandt's practice. Accusations range from methodically separating spouses, pathologizing normal behavior as addiction, and persuading patients to distance themselves from anyone who opposed her advice.    Dreeke made a stark observation: "Welcome to another world of someone trying to form a cult." He further elaborated, pointing out classic cult behaviors manifested in Hildebrandt's methods – controlling information, isolating individuals, and exploiting them. And most disturbingly, Dreeke notes how she seemed to have created her own unique labels for addictions, ones not recognized in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM).    A troubling revelation Brueski emphasized was how many of these cases, including Hildebrandt's, had ties to the Church of Latter-Day Saints (LDS). It's essential to note that Dreeke clarified his stance, saying, "Religion has been, it doesn’t matter what religion, it's always been the backbone of many cults that have done harm." He expressed concern over the disproportionate number of cases arising from current or former LDS members.    However, both hosts recognized the global contributions of the LDS church, praising its teachings of love, compassion, and non-discrimination. Dreeke offered a theory on why certain individuals may exploit such teachings, "What cults do is to suck you in as they love bomb you." This 'love bombing' technique, he elaborated, is about overwhelming a person with attention and affection. It's a potent strategy that often targets those feeling isolated or disenfranchised in their lives.    Such tactics lead to the significant question posed during their discussion: Do people who start cults even recognize they're doing so? Many, including Hildebrandt, may have deep convictions, but without proper checks and balances, these beliefs can spiral into something far more sinister, especially if spearheaded by a charismatic leader.    Dreeke pointed out that the term 'cult' has garnered a negative connotation over the years, yet many benign groups may have started in similar manners – with a small group of followers led by a charismatic leader. However, the distinction between a harmless group and a cult lies in the tactics employed: isolation, control of information, and harm (physical, psychological, or shaming).    The episode shed light on a grim reality: cult-like groups might not always be large, visible entities. They might be lurking in everyday settings, masked under the guise of therapy sessions or small group gatherings.    Thus, as the hosts of "Hidden Killers" continue their explorations into the shadowy corners of society, the ending question lingers: How many more undetected cults might be silently operating in plain sight? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

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