Suleika Jaouad: You Are Not The Bad Thing

Suleika Jaouad: You Are Not The Bad Thing

There is a strange tension when we want so badly for the people we love to support us, but want to shield them from the pain at the same time. This is a beautiful, terrible kind of love.

In this conversation, Kate and bestselling writer Suleika Jaouad discuss:

  • What it is like to be the one suffering—all the guilt and shame and rage and mercy and grace
  • How we can create better economies of love around those who need it
  • The toll illness takes on those around us

This episode originally aired in 2021, but is one of our all-time favorites for an honest conversation on being a cancer patient and how to support people in your lives who are undergoing treatment. Kate ends with a blessing for those who feel like their problem is too much to handle—a blessing if you feel like "the bad thing."

If you liked this episode, you might also love:


Don’t miss an episode. Sign up here to be the first to know about upcoming events near you, podcast guests, and more.

Watch clips from this conversation, read the full transcript, and access discussion questions by clicking here or visiting katebowler.com/podcasts.

Follow Kate on Instagram, Facebook, or X (formerly known as Twitter)—@katecbowler. Links to social pages and more available at linktr.ee/katecbowler.

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jaksot(282)

Advent: Begin Again

Advent: Begin Again

Well, here we are. December has arrived (shudder). And with it, the great cultural sprint: decorations, office parties, and the annual anxiety dream about whether you will accidentally forget someone ...

1 Joulu 20259min

Listen Again: Anna Sale on Hard Topics, Softer Conversations

Listen Again: Anna Sale on Hard Topics, Softer Conversations

In this conversation, Kate and Anna discuss: How conversations might engender the intimacy we need to get by Fostering the right interpersonal and listening skills it takes to approach a difficult to...

29 Marras 202547min

Nikki Grimes on Complicated Childhoods, Forgiveness, and Extraordinary Grace

Nikki Grimes on Complicated Childhoods, Forgiveness, and Extraordinary Grace

What happens when childhood teaches you more about survival than safety? Poet and author Nikki Grimes joins Kate to talk about growing up with profound instability—and still choosing to see beauty, fe...

25 Marras 202533min

More Happier: Do Holidays Leave You Exhausted, Not Restored? Priya Parker, Francis Lam & Kate Bowler on Celebration

More Happier: Do Holidays Leave You Exhausted, Not Restored? Priya Parker, Francis Lam & Kate Bowler on Celebration

Today, we’re sharing a conversation from the More Happier podcast between Kate, Gretchen Rubin, Priya Parker, and Francis Lam. It’s easy to get swept up in a cycle of holidays that feels more like a ...

22 Marras 202536min

Through the Lens of Love with Tim Shriver

Through the Lens of Love with Tim Shriver

Tim Shriver—educator, author, and longtime Chairman of Special Olympics—joins Kate for a tender, funny, deeply practical conversation about dignity: what changes when we decide everyone matters, how r...

18 Marras 202554min

Small Talk Survivors with Sarah Wildman

Small Talk Survivors with Sarah Wildman

What happens when you live on a planet where grief rewrites the language of everyday life? Kate Bowler speaks with writer and New York Times editor Sarah Wildman about her daughter Orli’s incandescent...

11 Marras 202547min

Relentless Tenderness: A Conversation on Healing with Sophie Grégoire Trudeau

Relentless Tenderness: A Conversation on Healing with Sophie Grégoire Trudeau

It’s tempting to be a very serious person in a very serious world. But what if staying soft was the most loving thing we could do? In this vulnerable and playful conversation, Kate sits down with Soph...

4 Marras 202536min

So Much Love, So Much to Lose with Catherine Newman

So Much Love, So Much to Lose with Catherine Newman

Loving people is a gift—and a liability. The more we love, the more there is to lose. In this hilariously honest and deeply tender conversation, Kate talks with beloved writer Catherine Newman about t...

28 Loka 202546min

Suosittua kategoriassa Yhteiskunta

sita
olipa-kerran-otsikko
kaksi-aitia
siita-on-vaikea-puhua
i-dont-like-mondays
hupiklubi
ihme-ja-kumma
uutiscast
poks
gogin-ja-janin-maailmanhistoria
antin-palautepalvelu
kolme-kaannekohtaa
mamma-mia
rss-murhan-anatomia
aikalisa
yopuolen-tarinoita-2
meidan-pitais-puhua
rss-palmujen-varjoissa
naakkavalta
loukussa