64: The Priesthood Ban -- Mormonism's Other Black Eye | 132 Problems: Mormon Polygamy
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64: The Priesthood Ban -- Mormonism's Other Black Eye | 132 Problems: Mormon Polygamy

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 https://www.patreon.com/132Problems Links: *Changes to footnotes Gospel Topic Essay

NAACP collaboration https://medium.com/@Ch_JesusChrist/locking-arms-for-racial-harmony-in-america-2f62180abf37 Joseph Letter to Oliver Cowdery: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/letter-to-oliver-cowdery-circa-9-april-1836/1#historical-intro Elijah Abel License: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/license-for-elijah-able-31-march-1836/1 Joseph letter to John Bennett: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/times-and-seasons-15-march-1842/7 Joseph Smith statement to Elder Hyde: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-draft-1-january-3-march-1843/2#full-transcript Joseph Smith presidential platform: https://byustudies.byu.edu/online-chapters/volume-6-chapter-8/ John Taylor, August 28, 1881, Journal of Discourses vol 22 pg 304 Brigham Young response about Enoch Lewis: Turner, John G. Brigham Young: Pioneer Prophet. 2012. Harvard University Press. Pg. 222 Jan 23, 1852 Brigham Young speech: https://archive.org/details/teachingofpresid0003fred/page/26/mode/2up?view=theater Feb 5th. 1852 Brigham Young Speech: https://archive.org/details/teachingofpresid0003fred/page/40/mode/2up?view=theater 1st Presidency statements: https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/Mormonism_and_racial_issues/Blacks_and_the_priesthood/Statements Lester Bush paper: https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V08N01_13.pdf Edward Kimball paper: https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3908&context=byusq Joseph Fielding Smith 1860 quote: “The Present Status of the Lamanites Question: "The question I have is concerning the present status of the Lamanites. I know that Laman and Lemuel and their families were cursed, but to what extent is this curse carried today? Was the darker skin all or just part of the curse? Will this curse be completely forgotten and taken away by the Lord on the basis of repentance and complete acceptance of the gospel?" Answer: The dark skin was placed upon the Lamanites so that they could be distinguished from the Nephites and to keep the two peoples from mixing. The dark skin was the sign of the curse. The curse was the withdrawal of the Spirit of the Lord and the Lamanites becoming a "loathsome and filthy people, full of idleness and all manner of abominations." (I Nephi 12:23.) The Lord commanded the Nephites not to intermarry with them, for if they did they would partake of the curse. At the time of the Savior's visit to the Nephites all of the people became united, and the curse and the dark skin which was its sign were removed. “The two peoples became one and lived in full harmony and peace for about two hundred years. There were no robbers, nor murderers, neither were there Lamanites, nor any manner of -ites; but they were in one, the children of Christ, and heirs to the kingdom of God. (IV Nephi, verse 17.) EVIL BROUGHT RETURN OF DARK SKIN After the people again forgot the Lord and dissensions arose, some of them took upon themselves the name Lamanites and the dark skin returned. When the Lamanites fully repent and sincerely receive the gospel, the Lord has promised to remove the dark skin. The Lord declared by revelation that, "before the great day of the Lord shall come, Jacob shall flourish in the wilderness, and the Lamanites shall blossom as the rose." (D. & C. 49:24.) The dark skin of those who have come into the Church is no longer to be considered a sign of the curse. Many of these converts are delightsome and have the Spirit of the Lord. Perhaps there are some Lamanites today who are losing the dark pigment. Many of the members of the Church among the Catawba Indians of the South could readily pass as of the white race; also in other parts of the South.”

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129: The Whitney Documents Part One - The "Revelation"

129: The Whitney Documents Part One - The "Revelation"

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128: A Long Overdue Conversation with Mark Curtis of Hemlock Knots

128: A Long Overdue Conversation with Mark Curtis of Hemlock Knots

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127: Panel #4 - Joseph, Emma & Joseph III v. the Traitors

127: Panel #4 - Joseph, Emma & Joseph III v. the Traitors

Please consider supporting this podcast: Venmo: @Michelle-Stone-24 Patreon.com/132problems Chapter Index: 0:00 Intro 1:10 Is Brian Hales a "Transparencyist"? 3:20 Hyrum Smith's April 8 1844 speech ...

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124: Fundamentalist Benjamin Shaffer Defends Polygamy - Part Two

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