Subbarao Kambhampati - Do o1 models search?

Subbarao Kambhampati - Do o1 models search?

Join Prof. Subbarao Kambhampati and host Tim Scarfe for a deep dive into OpenAI's O1 model and the future of AI reasoning systems.


* How O1 likely uses reinforcement learning similar to AlphaGo, with hidden reasoning tokens that users pay for but never see

* The evolution from traditional Large Language Models to more sophisticated reasoning systems

* The concept of "fractal intelligence" in AI - where models work brilliantly sometimes but fail unpredictably

* Why O1's improved performance comes with substantial computational costs

* The ongoing debate between single-model approaches (OpenAI) vs hybrid systems (Google)

* The critical distinction between AI as an intelligence amplifier vs autonomous decision-maker


SPONSOR MESSAGES:

***

CentML offers competitive pricing for GenAI model deployment, with flexible options to suit a wide range of models, from small to large-scale deployments.

https://centml.ai/pricing/


Tufa AI Labs is a brand new research lab in Zurich started by Benjamin Crouzier focussed on o-series style reasoning and AGI. Are you interested in working on reasoning, or getting involved in their events?


Goto https://tufalabs.ai/

***


TOC:

1. **O1 Architecture and Reasoning Foundations**

[00:00:00] 1.1 Fractal Intelligence and Reasoning Model Limitations

[00:04:28] 1.2 LLM Evolution: From Simple Prompting to Advanced Reasoning

[00:14:28] 1.3 O1's Architecture and AlphaGo-like Reasoning Approach

[00:23:18] 1.4 Empirical Evaluation of O1's Planning Capabilities


2. **Monte Carlo Methods and Model Deep-Dive**

[00:29:30] 2.1 Monte Carlo Methods and MARCO-O1 Implementation

[00:31:30] 2.2 Reasoning vs. Retrieval in LLM Systems

[00:40:40] 2.3 Fractal Intelligence Capabilities and Limitations

[00:45:59] 2.4 Mechanistic Interpretability of Model Behavior

[00:51:41] 2.5 O1 Response Patterns and Performance Analysis


3. **System Design and Real-World Applications**

[00:59:30] 3.1 Evolution from LLMs to Language Reasoning Models

[01:06:48] 3.2 Cost-Efficiency Analysis: LLMs vs O1

[01:11:28] 3.3 Autonomous vs Human-in-the-Loop Systems

[01:16:01] 3.4 Program Generation and Fine-Tuning Approaches

[01:26:08] 3.5 Hybrid Architecture Implementation Strategies


Transcript: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/d0ef4ovnfxi0lknirkvft/Subbarao.pdf?rlkey=l3rp29gs4hkut7he8u04mm1df&dl=0


REFS:

[00:02:00] Monty Python (1975)

Witch trial scene: flawed logical reasoning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g


[00:04:00] Cade Metz (2024)

Microsoft–OpenAI partnership evolution and control dynamics.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/17/technology/microsoft-openai-partnership-deal.html


[00:07:25] Kojima et al. (2022)

Zero-shot chain-of-thought prompting ('Let's think step by step').

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2205.11916


[00:12:50] DeepMind Research Team (2023)

Multi-bot game solving with external and internal planning.

https://deepmind.google/research/publications/139455/


[00:15:10] Silver et al. (2016)

AlphaGo's Monte Carlo Tree Search and Q-learning.

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature16961


[00:16:30] Kambhampati, S. et al. (2023)

Evaluates O1's planning in "Strawberry Fields" benchmarks.

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2410.02162


[00:29:30] Alibaba AIDC-AI Team (2023)

MARCO-O1: Chain-of-Thought + MCTS for improved reasoning.

https://arxiv.org/html/2411.14405


[00:31:30] Kambhampati, S. (2024)

Explores LLM "reasoning vs retrieval" debate.

https://arxiv.org/html/2403.04121v2


[00:37:35] Wei, J. et al. (2022)

Chain-of-thought prompting (introduces last-letter concatenation).

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2201.11903


[00:42:35] Barbero, F. et al. (2024)

Transformer attention and "information over-squashing."

https://arxiv.org/html/2406.04267v2


[00:46:05] Ruis, L. et al. (2023)

Influence functions to understand procedural knowledge in LLMs.

https://arxiv.org/html/2411.12580v1


(truncated - continued in shownotes/transcript doc)

Tämä jakso on lisätty Podme-palveluun avoimen RSS-syötteen kautta eikä se ole Podmen omaa tuotantoa. Siksi jakso saattaa sisältää mainontaa.

Jaksot(260)

Stealing Reasoning Traces from Proprietary LLM APIs — Ilia Shumailov & Alexander Panfilov

Stealing Reasoning Traces from Proprietary LLM APIs — Ilia Shumailov & Alexander Panfilov

Tim Scarfe speaks with Ilia Shumailov and Alexander Panfilov about their paper, Stealing Reasoning Traces from Proprietary LLM APIs.The core bug sounds deceptively simple: providers return encrypted r...

22 Elo 49min

Every Exponential Ends — Silicon Valley Forgot — Adam Becker

Every Exponential Ends — Silicon Valley Forgot — Adam Becker

Astrophysicist Adam Becker, author of "What Is Real?", joins Tim Scarfe to take apart the futures Silicon Valley keeps selling: the 2045 singularity, mind uploading, Mars colonies, and the AI apocalyp...

20 Elo 1h 18min

AI Is Learning at the Wrong Level of Abstraction — Matthieu Wyart

AI Is Learning at the Wrong Level of Abstraction — Matthieu Wyart

This episode is sponsored by Notion. Learn more about Notion's Developer Platform today at https://notion.com/mlstWhy can deep networks discover abstractions that shallow models miss? Statistical phys...

10 Elo 1h 18min

How Researchers Test AI for Hidden Goals — Apollo Research

How Researchers Test AI for Hidden Goals — Apollo Research

Can an AI do the right thing for the wrong reason? Tim Scarfe speaks with Apollo Research’s Alexander Meinke, Axel Højmark and Jérémy Scheurer about Measuring Reward-Seeking via Contrastive Belief Upd...

31 Heinä 1h 18min

Why a Nation Can't Outsource Its Frontier AI - Alistair Pullen (Cosine AI)

Why a Nation Can't Outsource Its Frontier AI - Alistair Pullen (Cosine AI)

This episode is sponsored by Notion. Learn more about Notion's Developer Platform today at https://notion.com/mlstBritain's most capable coding model can't be exported, and that ban is the whole reaso...

13 Heinä 55min

 The Benchmark With No Instructions — ARC-AGI-3 (winning team!)

The Benchmark With No Instructions — ARC-AGI-3 (winning team!)

Tim Scarfe travels to Zurich to sit down with the Tufa Labs ARC-AGI-3 team — founder Benjamin Crouzier, with Jeroen Cottaar, Dries Smit, Stefano Viel and Michal Tesnar — to work out what their leaderb...

1 Heinä 1h 24min

The Thermodynamic AI Computing Chip - Thomas Ahle

The Thermodynamic AI Computing Chip - Thomas Ahle

Thomas Ahle wants Normal Computing to be the Lovable for chip design: type your intent, and a swarm of agents carries it from design through optimisation, formalisation and verification to tape-out. T...

28 Kesä 1h 2min

He won a Nobel here for AlphaFold. Then he left. - John Jumper

He won a Nobel here for AlphaFold. Then he left. - John Jumper

This episode is sponsored by Notion. Learn more about Notion's Developer Platform today at https://notion.com/mlstProtein folding stalled biology for fifty years. A sequence of amino acids dictates a ...

22 Kesä 53min