Michael Levin and Anna Ciaunica: Consciousness Beyond the Brain

Michael Levin and Anna Ciaunica: Consciousness Beyond the Brain

Developmental biologist Michael Levin and cognitive scientist Anna Ciaunica discuss how cellular intelligence reshapes our understanding of consciousness, memory, and embodiment. They argue that the self emerges from the collective behavior of cells and that biology’s goal‑directed systems extend far beyond the brain.- 00:00 - Opening- 01:42 - Biggest myths in biology and neuroscience- 03:18 - Anna on self emerging from cells- 04:10 - Critique of adult‑centric views- 05:15 - Dropping old conceptual epicycles- 07:45 - Continuity from single cells to minds- 09:28 - Memory, metaphors, shifting perspectives- 10:46 - Bridging silos and interdisciplinarity- 13:04 - Development, evolution, goal‑directed systems- 17:05 - Expanding goal‑seeking in biology- 25:12 - Depression, body states, self‑regulation- 31:57 - Aging, goals, “having nothing left to do”- 41:10 - Pregnancy, immune systems, sharing a self- 51:08 - Interconnectedness as fundamental to selfhood- 57:56 - Story we tell vs agency of thoughts- 1:07:00 - Rewriting “you”: caterpillars, butterflies, memory- 1:16:15 - Final thoughts: self as ongoing embodied process- 1:24:01 - Closing remarks and where to find moreSPONSORS:- The Economist: 20% off discount - https://www.economist.com/toeRESOURCES:- Michael Levin's website: https://drmichaellevin.org/- Anna Ciaunica's website: https://annaciaunica.fr/- Curt's previous talk with Michael: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8iFtaltX-s&t=3924s&ab_channel=CurtJaimungal- Listen on Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/SpotifyTOE- Become a YouTube Member (Early Access Videos): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdWIQh9DGG6uhJk8eyIFl1w/join- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt- Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science. FOLLOW: Substack | Spotify | YouTube | Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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