Crypto's Ultimate End State With Avery Ching
Empire10 Helmi 2025

Crypto's Ultimate End State With Avery Ching

Gm! This week Avery Ching joins the show to discuss the Aptos 2.0 roadmap. We deep dive into the current vs end state of crypto, building a high performance L1, the rise of AI, misconceptions about Aptos & more. Enjoy! -- Follow Avery: https://x.com/AveryChing Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod Start your day with crypto news, analysis and data from Katherine Ross and David Canellis. Subscribe to the Empire newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/empire?utm_source=podcasts -- Ledger, the world leader in digital asset security, proudly sponsors Empire podcast. Celebrating 10 years of protecting over 20% of the world’s crypto, Ledger ensures the security of your assets. For the best self-custody solution in the space, buy a LEDGER™ device and secure your crypto today. Buy now at www.Ledger.com -- Mantle is evolving into the premier on-chain financial hub, supercharging the ecosystem that bridges blockchain with banking. The 2025 roadmap introduces three transformative products: - Enhanced Index Fund (launching Q1) offering optimized crypto exposure to BTC, ETH, SOL and USD with built-in yield optimization - targeting $1B AUM - Mantle Banking for seamless financial services - MantleX for AI-powered innovation Backed by a $4.5B treasury, Mantle is building the future of on-chain finance – accessible for everyone. Learn more: https://x.com/Mantle_Official/status/1882017058680086805 -- (00:00) Introduction (00:26) The Future Of Aptos (07:39) Building Products In Crypto (11:09) Designing A High Performance L1 (15:10) The Move VM (18:52) Crypto's Narrative Cycle (21:43) Building For Institutions vs Crypto Natives (25:14) Ads (Ledger & Mantle) (26:53) The Aptos Roadmap (34:00) The Growth Of Solana (36:17) Crypto's Ultimate End State (39:22) The Rise Of AI (42:03) Misconceptions About Aptos (44:38) Getting Started On Aptos -- Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

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Mike Belshe, from $20M Bitcoin under a couch to $20B+ in custody: the BitGo story

Mike Belshe, from $20M Bitcoin under a couch to $20B+ in custody: the BitGo story

My guest today is Mike Belshe, Founder and CEO of BitGo. But before that, he used what he learned at Netscape to help Google develop Chrome. Like many of us, Belshe stored his first Bitcoin on an old laptop. But after his investor friends started sending their digital assets his way, that "old laptop" was suddenly worth millions. Here's how his quest to secure those assets eventually became BitGo. ––– Empire is brought to you by Blockworks, a financial media brand delivering breaking news and premium insights about digital assets to millions of investors. For more content like Empire, visit http://blockworks.co/podcasts. Follow me on Twitter @JasonYanowitz and let me know what you thought of the show!

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Flori Marquez on founding BlockFi: the fastest-growing Fintech in the world

Flori Marquez on founding BlockFi: the fastest-growing Fintech in the world

My guest today is Flori Marquez, Co-Founder of BlockFi. On this episode of Empire, we discuss BlockFi's staggering valuation, what it's like to lead a $3 billion Fintech company, and why crypto is so valuable in countries without fiat stability. ––– Empire is brought to you by Blockworks, a financial media brand delivering breaking news and premium insights about digital assets to millions of investors. For more content like Empire, visit http://blockworks.co/podcasts. Follow me on Twitter @JasonYanowitz and let me know what you thought of the show!

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Joe Lubin, Ethereum Co-Founder, on why assets are moving from Wall Street to Crypto

Joe Lubin, Ethereum Co-Founder, on why assets are moving from Wall Street to Crypto

My guest today is Joe Lubin, Co-Founder of Ethereum and CEO and Founder of ConsenSys. On this episode of Empire, we discuss where Bitcoin falls short, Joe leaving Wall Street for Crypto, founding Ethereum and ConsenSys, why forks can be good for progress, and Joe's real motivators. ––– Empire is brought to you by Blockworks, a financial media brand delivering breaking news and premium insights about digital assets to millions of investors. For more content like Empire, visit http://blockworks.co/podcasts. Follow me on Twitter @JasonYanowitz and let me know what you thought of the show!

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Muneeb Ali, on why the next internet will be built on Bitcoin

Muneeb Ali, on why the next internet will be built on Bitcoin

My guest today is Muneeb Ali, Co-Founder of the Stacks Project (formerly Blockstack) and CEO of Hiro. On this episode of Empire, we talk about Muneeb’s upbringing in Pakistan and the sacrifices his family made to get him his first computer, military dictatorship vs democratic rule, how he lied about a grant to get a job in Sweden and then ran out of money, and why it’s better to build on Bitcoin than create a new chain. ––– Empire is brought to you by Blockworks, a financial media brand delivering breaking news and premium insights about digital assets to millions of investors. For more content like Empire, visit http://blockworks.co/podcasts. Follow me on Twitter @JasonYanowitz and let me know what you thought of the show!

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