Interview • Nelly Pailleux: Can Legal Fact-Checking Counter Political Disinfo?

Welcome to “Some Dare Call It Conspiracy”, where we delve into the intricate world of conspiracy theories and explore the truth behind them. Today, we're joined by Nelly Pailleux, COO of Les Surligneurs, a pioneering media organization known for its rigorous legal fact-checking methodology. In this episode, Nelly shares her journey from Journalistes Solidaires to co-founding Check First and her current role at Les Surligneurs. We also dive into pressing topics such as the recent allegations of fraudulent elections in Georgia and the Sovereign Citizen Movement in France, examining the intersection of misinformation and legal realities. Join us as we navigate these complex issues and uncover the facts - For more information on the exceptional work carried out by Nelly and the team, please visit https://lessurligneurs.eu

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Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is an award-winning podcast that examines conspiracy theories, misinformation, and moral panics — not from the outside, but from the inside.

The show is co-created and hosted by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders, both former insiders in the conspiracy world who spent years immersed in conspiracy belief, alternative media, and grassroots activism before walking away. Their experience gives them first-hand insight into how conspiracy narratives are built, why they feel so convincing, and why leaving those communities can be difficult.

Drawing on lived experience, deep research, and expert interviews — alongside a distinctly British sense of humour — the podcast breaks down conspiracy culture with clarity and bite. Episodes vary in format, but all focus on who benefits when misinformation spreads, how harm is done, and how bad ideas gain influence.

The result is a show that is sceptical without being smug, serious about real-world consequences without losing its edge, and unafraid to call out grift and power where it thrives.

Join us to discover where the truth… lies.

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