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Dustin Campbell: C# 13 - Episode 339

Dustin is a Principal Software Engineer at Microsoft. He works on enhancing .NET tooling and contributing to the design of the next version of C# as part of the language design team. Prior to his current role, he spent several years working as a program manager on Project Roslyn. He also contributed in a strong way to the Razor UI framework. He recently presented a session at .NET Conf 2024 on What's new in C# 13.

Topics of Discussion:

[4:04] Fun fact: Dustin has a jazz guitar performance degree!

[3:39] The unique appeal of C#.

[5:06] Evolution of C# and its features.

[10:48] Impact of Async and Await on C#.

[13:17] The compatibility of C# 13 with older .NET versions, specifically .NET 8.

[15:04] How developers can leverage the latest C# features while still targeting older .NET frameworks, and the challenges associated with runtime support for new language capabilities.

[17:04] Hacking the C# compiler.

[17:28] The evolution of records from their initial introduction to the added features.

[18:46] Records vs. Classes in C#.

[22:51] AI's influence on developer productivity.

[25:46] The future of AI developer tools.

[33:26] The need for better support for testing with large language models and other AI-driven dependencies.

Mentioned in this Episode:

Clear Measure Way

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Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo

The Five Pillars: Leadership For Effective Custom Software, by Jeffrey Palermo

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Dustin Campbell on LinkedIn

.NET Conf 2024: What's New in C#13

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