247: The Deeper State

247: The Deeper State

This week we’re looking at how folks who associated themselves with the magical and morbid QAnon memes about the “coming storm” that would destroy the Deep State have become that storm, mainly by talking about it, and are now in the position to congeal an even Deeper State characterized by more repression and control. They’re doing it both as conspiracists and as conspiracy theorists would predict: as rich guys pretending to be oppressed. This opens up the question of “Have we been here before in the US, and what happened?” The parallels are uncanny. In the late 1920s, Henry Ford had his car dealers stick copies of The Dearborn Independent newspaper in the glove compartments of new cars. That was the rag in which he published excerpts of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Today another auto baron, Elon Musk, busts out seigheils and posts Nazi memes whenever he likes. But only one of them got a White House office. Show Notes CDC Statement on Measles Outbreak US Health Secretary Kennedy calls for end to deadly Texas measles outbreak Copy of STORM is HERE Data LIVE: Kash Patel’s confirmation hearing for FBI director Kash Patel Wants to Work From Home for FBI. But Who Does He Live With? | The New Republic Kash Patel privately agreed to hire an experienced deputy FBI director. Then Trump picked a loyalist | The Independent How Dan Bongino Went From Infowars to FBI Deputy Director | WIRED How Trump’s Justice Department has gutted the government’s ability to chase public corruption | CNN Politics 123: The Red-Pilled "Academic" Who Named Our Podcast — Conspirituality Darkness Over All: John Robison and the Birth of the Illuminati Conspiracy — The Public Domain Review Conspiracy Theories Abounded in 19th-Century American Politics | Smithsonian Wealthy bankers and businessmen plotted to overthrow FDR. A retired general foiled it. Medical Mystery: What killed ‘Red Scare’ Sen. Joseph McCarthy? FBI director considering having UFC train agents in martial arts, say people familiar with plan | Reuters What We Know About the CIA's Midcentury Mind-Control Project | Smithsonian FBI Records: The Vault — COINTELPRO On campaign trail, RFK Jr. pushes 'bonkers' theory about CIA's 'takeover of the American press' - ABC News Richard Hofstadter’s “The Paranoid Style” Can’t Help Us Now Rehabilitating McCarthyism JFK, Richard Hofstadter, and the ‘Paranoid Style in American Politics’ Ford's Anti-Semitism | American Experience | Official Site | PBS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Brief: The New Media Order

Brief: The New Media Order

The White House Correspondents’ Dinner was a little different this year. No president. No comedian. The event featured a mea culpa from an Axios journalist who discussed the media’s complicity in failing to expose Biden’s mental decline. Meanwhile, Substack promoted an alternative parallel event called “Not The White House Correspondents’ Dinner” with an email that announced, “a new media order is emerging.” Legit—or just another conspiracy touting MAGA sham? Julian reports on the proceedings of both events, as well as how the media landscape is shifting in ways that render the definitions of terms like “independent,” “journalism,” and “unbiased” hard to pin down. Digging beneath the surface on Substack, and outlets like The Free Press, and the increasingly mainstreamed far right cult-rag the Epoch Times, all of which claim in some way to represent this emergent new media order, leads him to ask: where is the real home of fact-based independent journalism? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

3 Touko 27min

255: A MAHA Wellness Scam at Ontario Place

255: A MAHA Wellness Scam at Ontario Place

Doug Ford’s Progressive Conservative government in Ontario has leased the public space of OP to the Therme Spa company, which promises to bring wellness and democracy to the good citizens of Toronto, for a price. Bruce Van Dieten and Ann-Elizabeth Samson of Ontario Place for All join Matthew to discuss the history and possible future of Toronto's cherished public space. Bruce is "a retired busybody with nothing better to do than to lodge burrs under the saddles of politicians who see us as customers instead of citizens and treat us like obstacles." Ann Elisabeth Samson specializes in equality, innovation, and futures thinking. She founded and ran BabyCenter Canada, and led the launch of the $300M Equality Fund. She is co-chair of Ontario Place for All and as an open water swimmer and rower - loves Lake Ontario. Show Notes Ontario Place for All  “To Rid Society of Imbeciles”: The Impact of Dr. John Harvey Kellogg’s Stand for Eugenics RFK Jr. Wants to Send People Addicted to Antidepressants to Government “Wellness Farms” Ontario Place  Quick Facts & Analysis + Fact Checker: Ford government's health care funding Ford government spending $525-675M on Therme Spa to get up to $380-580M in value back if it is successful for 95 years: analysis Ford says he will ‘double and triple check’ Ontario Place deal after new report European Spa Company Therme Misrepresented Itself in an Effort to Expand Into Canada Province grilled over Therme's credentials to build luxury spa at Ontario Place Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

1 Touko 1h 1min

Bonus Sample: How To Talk To Your Son About Fascism (Pt 2)

Bonus Sample: How To Talk To Your Son About Fascism (Pt 2)

Part 2 of Matthew’s conversation with historian Craig Johnson (PhD Berkeley), who hosts Fifteen Minutes of Fascism, which covers the global rise of the radical right. He’s the author of an excellent new book, How to Talk to Your Son about Fascism, a guide for parents and educators on keeping young men out of the extreme right wing.  Today we tackle strategy. To debunk or not to debunk? How do you derail the coolness of fascism? How do we theorize the agency of kids becoming political actors? How do we maintain trust while engaging with a family member sliding to the right? Show Notes How to Talk to Your Son about Fascism - 1st Edition - Craig A. Johnson  Fifteen Minutes of Fascism YouTube  Stream Fifteen Minutes of Fascism Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

28 Huhti 7min

Brief: How To Talk To Your Son About Fascism (Pt 1)

Brief: How To Talk To Your Son About Fascism (Pt 1)

Historian Craig Johnson (PhD Berkeley) hosts Fifteen Minutes of Fascism, which covers the global rise of the radical right. He’s the author of an excellent new book, How to Talk to Your Son about Fascism, a guide for parents and educators on keeping young men out of the extreme right wing.  In this first of a two-part interview, Matthew and Craig discuss definitions of fascism, why it appeals to young men (or how masculinity is socially constructed), irony poisoning, and whether fascism can be fought through accelerating cringe cycles.  Part 2 drops in Patreon on Monday. That episode centers on an exploration of strategy: how do we theorize the agency of kids becoming political actors? How do we maintain trust while engaging with a family member sliding to the right?  Show notes How to Talk to Your Son about Fascism - 1st Edition - Craig A. Johnson  Fifteen Minutes of Fascism YouTube  Stream Fifteen Minutes of Fascism Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

26 Huhti 46min

254: The Great MAHA Purity War of 2025

254: The Great MAHA Purity War of 2025

Someone’s got dirt on RFK Jr. MAHA voters went MAGA because Bobby said he was going to end vaccine mandates—their code for ending vaccines, period. No longer would food be dyed and oils be made of seeds. Everyone would get free gym memberships. America’s chronic disease epidemic would end overnight, as he’s repeatedly claimed.  Then Mr Kennedy goes to Washington only to declare that antisemitism is a public health crisis? And to say that the MMR vaccine is the most effective way to prevent measles? How could he say such a thing when, as Mikki Willis recently claimed, this “version” of measles is a bioweapon designed to infect the Mennonite population?  This week we look way too deeply into Candace Owens’s recent episodes about the blackmailing of RFK Jr, a story that quickly spread its tentacles into the microphones of a number of contrarian right-wing podcasters. We’ll give you the lowdown on the story and how, like a children’s game of telephone, it repeatedly got distorted and reframed with every mind it touched. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

24 Huhti 1h 15min

Bonus Sample: God is a Cloned Alien Love-Machine!

Bonus Sample: God is a Cloned Alien Love-Machine!

When the aliens landed, they told a young musician and wannabe race car driver that he was the chosen one, and they were the real gods. He should build them an embassy with a UFO landing pad in order to prepare humanity for their arrival. They taught him the secrets of sex meditation and cloning DNA as a way to keep switching bodies and never die.  Not much in his story was original, but this was the 1970s, so free love hippies flocked to his French commune—then it all turned to shit. Somehow Claude kept landing on his feet. He took his schtick to Quebec, then Japan, and even found thousands of followers in Africa. Still no embassy, no divine alien arrival, no cloned human babies—but he kept raising funds from the gullible and living like a king with a ballerina bride 40 years his junior. For the latest installment in Roots of Conspirituality series, Julian muses on the epic tale of the Raelians. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

21 Huhti 6min

Brief: The Cult of Crossfit

Brief: The Cult of Crossfit

When cultural and psychological anthropologist Katie Rose Hejtmanek set out to study Crossfit, she knew she had to throw herself into it fully. For seven years, she traveled to “boxes” around the world while committing herself to her local Brooklyn box. What she uncovered was a rabid fan base that deeply values community and a business model that offers a refreshing response to unfettered capitalism—as well as the misogyny, racism, and militarized Christian themes that inform this beloved and despised fitness regimen. She joins Derek to discuss her new book, The Cult of CrossFit: Christianity and the American Exercise Phenomenon. Show Notes The Cult of CrossFit: Christianity and the American Exercise Phenomenon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

19 Huhti 36min

253: The Politics of Abundance

253: The Politics of Abundance

"In order to have the future we want, we have to build and invent more of the things we need." That’s the central claim of Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson’s new book, Abundance. They argue that Democrat-run cities and states have suffered self-inflicted wounds that are causing a mass exodus to red states, where life is simply more affordable. To stop the bleeding, Dems need to take action on a bold new vision that cuts through red tape to improve people’s lives and address the crises in housing, climate, healthcare and politics. But many on the left are suspicious. Is this just Reaganomics wrapped up in the intellectualized language of the NY Times? Is Abundance the privileged prosperity gospel for white liberals? Show Notes The Abundance Agenda: Neoliberalism’s Rebrand Abundance: The Left Hates It Summary of Abundance Critiques Politico: False Choice Between Abundance and Antitrust Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

17 Huhti 55min

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