EP38: Lean, Mean Business: The Great Talent Shift
ASOM Pod13 Maalis 2025

EP38: Lean, Mean Business: The Great Talent Shift

In this episode of The ASOM Pod, hosts John Roman (CEO of BattlBox), Amer Grozdanic (CEO of Praella), Bryan McDonald (Director of eCommerce at Oma's Pride), and Jimmy Kim (CEO of eCom Email Marketer & Founder of Sendlane) break down the messy, unpredictable, and sometimes chaotic world of running a business in today’s economy. From layoffs to leadership challenges, they get real about what it takes to keep a company afloat—and thriving—when the game keeps changing.


The crew dives into the rise of freelancers, fractional execs, and overseas talent—are they the secret to scaling smarter, or just a band-aid solution? They also tackle the ever-controversial remote work vs. in-office debate (spoiler: there’s no one-size-fits-all answer).


What You’ll Learn:

  • How to future-proof your business so it doesn’t crash and burn
  • The real impact of layoffs, restructuring, and automation on team morale
  • Why remote vs. in-person work is not a simple yes/no debate
  • How to be a leader (not just a taskmaster) when times get rough
  • Key lessons from The Culture Code on creating a culture people actually want to be part of


Whether you’re running an agency, leading a team, or just trying to survive corporate chaos, this episode is packed with insights, hard truths, and practical strategies to help you build a lean, efficient, and thriving business.


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00:00 Teaser Trailer

02:29 Welcome to the ASOM Pod

04:45 The Changing Landscape of Team Structures

05:16 The Role of AI in Productivity

05:48 The Impact of Layoffs and Reorganizations

22:49 Hiring Trends: Freelancers and Overseas Talent

31:14 Pricing Risks and Business Model Changes

32:00 Challenges of U.S. Manufacturing

32:44 Automation and Overseas Efficiency

36:18 Impact of Layoffs on Company Culture

37:21 Remote Work vs. In-Person Culture

44:47 Leadership and Team Efficiency

50:48 Book Review: The Culture Code

57:50 Conclusion and Next Episode Preview

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Follow Jimmy Kim at:

X: https://www.twitter.com/yojimmykim

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yojimmykim

IG: https://www.instagram.com/@yojimmykim

Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@yojimmykim


Follow Bryan MacDonald at:

X: https://www.twitter.com/bryanomaspride

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryan-macdonald-ct

IG: https://www.instagram.com/@anythingbutasalad

Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@anythingbutasalad


Follow John Roman at:

X: https://www.twitter.com/@JohnMRoman

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-roman/

IG: https://www.instagram.com/@johnnyromes

Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@johnmroman


Follow Amer Grozdanic at:

X: https://www.twitter.com/@AmerGrozdanic

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amer-grozdanic

IG: https://www.instagram.com/@amergrozdanic

Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@amergrozdanic


Contact us at hello@asompod.com for sponsorships, appearance requests, interviews, or general information!

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