S2 Ep1007: Jeffrey Goldberg and Peter Wehner: What's Going on with Our National Security?
The Bulwark Podcast25 Maalis 2025

S2 Ep1007: Jeffrey Goldberg and Peter Wehner: What's Going on with Our National Security?

Senior members of Trump's Cabinet got caught sharing attack plans—down to details of who they were planning to kill, and with what kind of weapons, while also wishing Godspeed to our soldiers—and now they'll say anything to get out of the jam they put themselves in. Also, JD Vance openly questioned the judgement of the president in front of those very senior Cabinet members. Meanwhile, vengeance has long been a defining feature of Trump, but the habits of his heart have also infected his supporters. And they've become a moral freak show cheering on deportations of families and starving Africans. Jeff Goldberg and Pete Wehner join Tim Miller.

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