The Telegraph Rugby Podcast4 Marras 2019

Kyran Bracken: England got carried away with NZ win

After 7 weeks of action in Japan the Rugby World Cup 2019 is now in the history books and it was not meant to be for England who fell short at the final hurdle against a powerful and combative South Africa side.

Alongside Brian in studio is 203 World Cup winner and former England scrum half Kyran Bracken. Eddie Jones says he cannot put his finger on what went wrong for England but luckily Brian and Kyran have a few theories of their own which they believe contributed to England’s defeat.

As for South Africa they became the first side to lose a game in the World Cup and go on to win the tournament, former Springbok skipper and World Cup winner Bob Skinstad joins the show to describe why the victory means so much more than just a sporting triumph back in a country which is still divided on so many levels.

Referee Jerome Garces was the brunt of a lot English fans criticism on Saturday morning but former international referee Jonathan Kaplan explains why he actually had quite a good final, and that the standard of refereeing overall in the tournament increased as it went on.

And we debate whether or not Eddie Jones is the right man to lead England into the next World Cup in four years time, he refused to answer questions regarding his future but has agreed a contract with the RFU up until 2021.

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