The Biggest Market Crash Since 2020, What Next? | Felix Jauvin & Quinn Thompson
Empire14 Huhti 2025

The Biggest Market Crash Since 2020, What Next? | Felix Jauvin & Quinn Thompson

Gm! This week we're joined by Felix Jauvin & Quinn Thompson from the Forward Guidance podcast to discuss where markets go next from here. After the market sold off in reaction to the Trump tariffs, we deep dive into the bull vs bear case in 2025, Trump's end game, building the perfect portfolio, Coinbase vs Robinhood, is Bitcoin really a safe haven asset & more. Enjoy! -- Subscribe to the Empire newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/empire?utm_source=podcasts Follow Quinn: https://x.com/qthomp Follow Felix: https://x.com/fejau_inc Follow Santi: https://x.com/santiagoroel Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/JasonYanowitz Follow Empire: https://twitter.com/theempirepod Join the Empire Telegram: https://t.me/+CaCYvTOB4Eg1OWJh -- Follow the Forward Guidance Podcast: https://x.com/ForwardGuidance Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Grab your tickets to Permissionless IV. Use code EMPIRE10 for 10% off: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iv -- Petra Earn was designed to make DeFi more accessible for everyone—from seasoned pros to DeFi beginners. Manage your balance, claim rewards and deposit directly from the app. By supplying USDT to Aries lending pools, users have the potential to earn a higher yield compared to some traditional methods. Not financial advice. Participating in Defi carries risks. To learn more visit https://petra.app/earn -- Zenrock is a permissionless, decentralized custody network backed by 1RoundTable Partners, 10T, Maven11, and Spartan. Live on Jupiter, $ROCK is the native token for transactions within the Zenrock ecosystem and secures Zenrock’s decentralized custody network. The first application launching on Zenrock is zenBTC – yield-bearing Bitcoin on Solana. zenBTC will be live in April 2025. -- Crypto never sleeps. So we built an Al analyst that never blinks. Meet Focal by FalconX: a GenAI insights engine built for institutional crypto. Already used by 80+ funds managing $10B+ in AUM. 🔹 Screen, chart, and analyze 1300+ tokens 🔹 Summarize market-moving news instantly 🔹 Integrates data from CoinGecko, Kaito, Token Terminal, Tokenomist, The Tie Get started today: https://askfocal.com -- WalletConnect is the onchain connectivity network . If you’ve connected to a Web3 app, you’ve seen WalletConnect. It’s everywhere—an icon of trust in crypto, as recognizable as Visa at checkout. The numbers speak for themselves: Over 220 million connections and 35 million users worldwide use WalletConnect to power their Web3 experience. @WalletConnect on X and Telegram or visit https://WalletConnect.Network -- Token.com is a social-first crypto platform transforming how people discover and trade through crypto content. The revolutionary in-feed trading turns complex crypto into intuitive investments, while content creators earn from every trade and projects amplify their stories through native tokens - creating a new era of social media-powered crypto discovery. Just scroll to watch and tap to invest. Download the app! -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (00:52) Turning Bearish In 2025 (11:38) Ads (Aptos, Zenrock) (12:58) How Trump Spooked Markets (16:44) The Trump & Bessent Playbook (20:12) The Bull vs Bear Case In 2025 (28:56) Ads (Aptos, Zenrock) (30:15) How To Position Under Trump 2.0 (33:54) Will The Fed Step In? (37:55) What We Learnt From SVB’s Collapse (40:52) Ads (Falcon X, WalletConnect, Token.com) (43:05) What’s Trump’s End Game (47:53) Is Bitcoin A Safe Haven? (50:45) Building A Crypto Portfolio (01:04:23) Long vs Short Vol (01:07:26) Coinbase & Crypto Equities -- Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

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DAOs are crypto's most important innovation | Cooper Turley

DAOs are crypto's most important innovation | Cooper Turley

In this episode of Empire Jason & Mike are joined by Cooper Turley an operator, advisor & thought leader in the fast evolving DAO ecosystem. Cooper has worked on projects such as Friends with Benefits, Forefront, Seed Club & many more. In this episode, Cooper shares his thoughts on the transition from web 2.0 to web 3.0, four steps to creating a DAO, the creator economy, how to invest in the ecosystem & the outlook for the rest of 2021. -- Avalanche: Thank you to Avalanche for sponsoring Empire. Avalanche is one of the best and fastest growing smart-contract platforms in the industry. Learn more about them at https://www.avax.network/ -- ParaSwap: If you want to make a swap at the best price across the DeFi market, check out paraswap.io. ParaSwap’s state-of-the-art algorithm beats the market price across all major DEXs and brings you the most optimized swaps with the best prices, and lowest slippage. Find out more about them at https://www.paraswap.io/ --- Empire is brought to you by Blockworks, a financial media brand delivering breaking news and premium insights about digital assets to millions of investors. For more content like Empire, visit http://blockworks.co/podcasts Follow me on Twitter @JasonYanowitz and let me know what you thought of the show!

21 Loka 202142min

Solana founder unravels the Layer 1 Wars | Anatoly Yakovenko

Solana founder unravels the Layer 1 Wars | Anatoly Yakovenko

In this episode of Empire, Jason is joined by Blockworks co-founder Mike Ippolito & Solana co-founder Anatoly Yakovenko. Anatoly has spent over 20 years as an engineer working for companies such as Qualcomm & Dropbox whilst contributing to open source software development. After the recent success of Solana, we invited Anatoly onto Empire to discuss how Solana was founded, the current layer 1 wars, the growth of crypto vs the internet, DeFi, DEXs vs CEXs and so much more! -- Avalanche: Thank you to Avalanche for sponsoring Empire. Avalanche is one of the best and fastest growing smart-contract platforms in the industry. Learn more about them at https://www.avax.network/ -- ParaSwap: If you want to make a swap at the best price across the DeFi market, check out paraswap.io. ParaSwap’s state-of-the-art algorithm beats the market price across all major DEXs and brings you the most optimized swaps with the best prices, and lowest slippage. --- Empire is brought to you by Blockworks, a financial media brand delivering breaking news and premium insights about digital assets to millions of investors. For more content like Empire, visit http://blockworks.co/podcasts Follow me on Twitter @JasonYanowitz and let me know what you thought of the show!

14 Loka 202148min

Why You Should Only Own Bitcoin | Alyse Killeen

Why You Should Only Own Bitcoin | Alyse Killeen

In this episode of Empire Jason is joined by Alyse Killeen, Managing Partner of StillMark - the Bitcoin VC Firm investing in the frontier of Bitcoin innovation. As well as founding StillMark in 2019, Alyse sits on the board of directors at Blockstream as an Independent Director. Alyse shares her thoughts on the most exciting companies being founded in the industry, the future of earning Bitcoin vs investing in Bitcoin, Bitcoin adoption outpacing the internet & bringing Bitcoin to the next Billion! -- Thank you to Avalanche for sponsoring Empire. Avalanche is one of the best and fastest growing smart-contract platforms in the industry. Learn more about them at https://www.avax.network/ -- Empire is brought to you by Blockworks, a financial media brand delivering breaking news and premium insights about digital assets to millions of investors. For more content like Empire, subscribe to Blockworks' free daily newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/

30 Syys 202138min

DeFi, Layer 1 wars & the Supercycle | Predictions with Qiao Wang

DeFi, Layer 1 wars & the Supercycle | Predictions with Qiao Wang

In this episode of Empire, Jason is joined by Qiao Wang, contributor to DeFi Alliance. As a former quant trader & now busy funding projects in the DeFi & Web 3.0 ecosystem, Qiao has a unique understanding of crypto's past and what new innovations lay in store for the crypto economy at large. While looking at the timeline of DeFi, they touch on the Layer 1 wars, DAOs, the 10 year supercycle and more. -- Thank you to Avalanche for sponsoring Empire. Avalanche is one of the best and fastest growing smart-contract platforms in the industry. Learn more about them at https://www.avax.network/ --- Empire is brought to you by Blockworks, a financial media brand delivering breaking news and premium insights about digital assets to millions of investors. For more content like Empire, subscribe to Blockworks' free daily newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/

23 Syys 202143min

Cleaning up the energy grid with Bitcoin mining | Marty Bent & Harry Sudock

Cleaning up the energy grid with Bitcoin mining | Marty Bent & Harry Sudock

In this episode of Empire, Jason is joined by Marty Bent of Great American Mining and Harry Sudock of GRIID. Marty & Harry are focused on using stranded or otherwise wasted energy to mine Bitcoin whilst reducing flaring, methane and carbon emissions whilst doing so. Marty & Harry discuss the multi billion dollar opportunity in Bitcoin mining, the energy arbitrage opportunity, how the energy grid actually operates, the energy consumption debate and the Lightning Network. -- Empire is brought to you by Blockworks, a financial media brand delivering breaking news and premium insights about digital assets to millions of investors. For more content like Empire, subscribe to Blockworks' free daily newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/

16 Syys 202154min

Sergey Nazarov reveals why $2 trillion will flow into DeFi | Chainlink

Sergey Nazarov reveals why $2 trillion will flow into DeFi | Chainlink

In this episode of Empire Jason is joined by Sergey Nazarov. Sergey is the Co-founder of Chainlink, a decentralized oracle network provider for advanced smart contracts. Sergey and Jason discuss hybrid smart contracts, oracle networks, DeFi's total addressable market, how current business models will be forced to adapt and the challenges of developing Chainlink. ––– Empire is brought to you by Blockworks, a financial media brand delivering breaking news and premium insights about digital assets to millions of investors. For more content like Empire, visit http://blockworks.co/podcasts. Follow me on Twitter @JasonYanowitz and let me know what you thought of the show!

9 Syys 202154min

Is crypto approaching its Facebook moment with ex-Myspace CEO | Mike Jones

Is crypto approaching its Facebook moment with ex-Myspace CEO | Mike Jones

In this episode of Empire Jason is joined by Mike Jones. Mike is the CEO of Science, a studio that focuses on mobile, marketplaces and select e-commerce investments. Mike is highly regarded in the venture capital industry having been CEO of Myspace, investor in Dollar Shave Club successfully overseeing $2 billion in exits. Mike shares his thoughts on the negative effects of social media, entertainment vs utility, how a VC approaches investing in crypto, how Science studio has evolved and the current popularity of SPACs.

26 Elo 20211h 6min

Hedge fund manager talks CBDCs

Hedge fund manager talks CBDCs

In this episode Jason sits down with Avik Roy. Avik is President of the Foundation for Research on Equal Opportunity, policy editor at Forbes, former analyst and portfolio manager at the investment firms Bain Capital, JPMorgan Chase & founder of the healthcare-focused hedge fund Mymensingh Partners. Avik shares his thoughts on CBDC's vs stable coins, the private sector's role within the economy, the incoming entitlement crisis and his current Bitcoin thesis. Avik's expertise covers a variety of topics, so we couldn't be more pleased to bring you this episode of Empire. ––– LUKKA Lukka Prime is crypto asset pricing data aligned to accounting standards like GAAP and IFRS. Lukka Prime Pricing Data is the pricing source used by S&P Dow Jones Indices’ for their new cryptocurrency indices. Lukka Prime is the world’s first fair market value pricing source for crypto assets and the best option for all post-trade reporting needs. Visit lukka.tech/empire to learn more. ––– EXODUS Download the app today at http://exodus.com/empire and iOS users can buy up to $500 in Bitcoin for just $1 for a limited time. ––– Empire is brought to you by Blockworks, a financial media brand delivering breaking news and premium insights about digital assets to millions of investors. For more content like Empire, visit http://blockworks.co/podcasts. Follow me on Twitter @JasonYanowitz and let me know what you thought of the show!

19 Elo 202145min

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