Episode 221: Slow Fashion & Inclusivity with Nico and Donnelle

Episode 221: Slow Fashion & Inclusivity with Nico and Donnelle

This is part two in a continuing series about slow fashion and inclusivity. In this episode you'll meet two people working to make slow fashion more accessible for more people:

Nico Herzetty is the founder and CEO of Phoria, " a platform to help people find what fits their bodies, their style, and their priorities—and how we can support each other in that journey." Find Phoria on Instagram: @phoriafits

Donnelle Jageman is the founder of The Plus Swap and a cofounder of Philly FatCon. Find Philly FatCon on Instagram: @phillyfatcon

In these two one-on-one conversations with Amanda, we will explore the following subjects:

  • What does "size inclusive" mean when we are talking about brands?
  • What is the positive social impact of normalizing body diversity in fashion and media?
  • Are there really ethically made clothes in larger sizes somewhere out there in the world?
  • How can we build a more inclusive, stronger community via events?
  • What does a more sustainable, inclusive fashion industry look like?
  • And are deer really just forest ponies?

Also, Amanda talks about the fashion industry's approach to just about everything (including inclusivity) feels so tired and antiquated. And why she is optimistic about the future of slow fashion in 2025.

This episode gets started with an audio essay from Sarah of Summa Salts. She will explain how her business is focused on making access to good food easier for more people. Find Summa Salts on Instagram: @summasalts

Read this: "The Vogue Business Spring/Summer 2025 size inclusivity report," Lucy Maguire and Maliha Shoaib
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