S2 Ep1023: Ben Wittes: Sorry, We Still Have Due Process
The Bulwark Podcast17 Huhti 2025

S2 Ep1023: Ben Wittes: Sorry, We Still Have Due Process

The White House is doubling down on justifying its extra-judicial actions around Abrego Garcia by trying to incriminate him in the court of public opinion. But the government still can't pluck people off an American street and send them to a concentration camp without due process. Plus, Judge Boasberg is not letting Stephen Miller off the hook for defying his order to turn the Salvadoran-bound planes around. And while the administration tries to stir up outrage about one immigrant's marital problems, they admiringly describe the evil, blood-thirsty Vladimir Putin as a good guy. Ben Wittes joins Tim Miller.

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Bill Kristol and Andrew Egger: Lying Is the Price of Admission

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Any apprentice who wants to join Trump's ticket has to prove they won't accept the election results unless Trump wins—and Tim Scott shows he is a willing collaborator. Plus, most students aren't on the side of the protesters, the threat to Biden from the sense of disorder, and the pathology of Kristi Noem. Bill Kristol and Andrew Egger join Tim Miller. show notes: Politico story on nonprofits funding Gaza protests

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Live from Philly

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