The $500 Billion Secret: Why Top Leaders Chase Stress | Sébastien Page  : 1272

The $500 Billion Secret: Why Top Leaders Chase Stress | Sébastien Page : 1272

Most people run from stress. The world’s highest performers run toward it.

Sébastien Page manages over $500 billion in global assets. He’s the CIO of one of the world’s largest investment firms, and he wrote The Psychology of Leadership while living under relentless pressure. His secret? He doesn’t avoid stress—he uses it as a tool for performance, clarity, and control.

But here’s the twist: this isn’t just about boardrooms or billion-dollar trades.

Whether you’re running a company, chasing a deadline, or just trying to stop procrastinating on your goals—this conversation will flip what you think you know about pressure, performance, and productivity.

You’ll learn why trying to “relax your way to success” doesn’t work—and how to harness discomfort to create better decisions, higher output, and more resilience in every part of life.


What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

• The psychology of stress and why zero stress leads to burnout

• How procrastination can boost creative performance

• What astronauts, athletes, and leaders have in common

• Why the key to better decisions is strategic patience, not speed

• The stress-performance curve no one taught you in school

• Why losing is the real path to mastery (and what Roger Federer can teach you)

• The difference between being nice vs. being kind—and why it matters


It's time to start turning stress into strategy.


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Resources:

Dave Asprey’s New Book - Heavily Meditated: https://daveasprey.com/heavily-meditated/

Sébastien’s New Book –The Psychology of Leadership – https://www.psychologyofleadership.net/

2025 Biohacking Conference: https://biohackingconference.com/2025

Danger Coffee: https://dangercoffee.com

Dave Asprey’s Website: https://daveasprey.com

Dave Asprey’s Linktree: https://linktr.ee/daveasprey

Upgrade Collective – Join The Human Upgrade Podcast Live: https://www.ourupgradecollective.com

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40 Years of Zen – Neurofeedback Training for Advanced Cognitive Enhancement: https://40yearsofzen.com


Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

02:00 Book Launch & Setup

02:45 Buy or Sell? Market Insights

03:20 Stress and Performance

04:28 Sports Psychology Breakdown

09:48 Federer & the Power of Losing

26:42 Rethinking Feedback

31:32 Stress as a Tool

44:10 Listening as Leadership

44:17 Traits of Great Leaders

44:54 Psychology for Entrepreneurs

45:37 Leading Beyond Work

46:09 Sleep Tracking Anxiety

47:39 Channeling Stress

49:04 Extreme Pressure Moments

50:42 The Corporate Athlete

59:08 Vulnerability & Leadership

01:05:23 Goal-Induced Blindness

01:12:34 Finding Meaning at Work

01:18:08 Leadership at Home

01:20:27 Final Takeaways

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