Cleaning Up: Leadership in an Age of Climate Change23 Huhti 2025

Trump vs The Transition, The Pope’s Climate Legacy & The High Price of UK Electricity — Ep205

In 100 short days, the world has transformed. Since the reelection of President Donald Trump, US federal climate policy has largely been abandoned, with the government seeking to reopen coal-fired power plants and lower environmental standards.

An escalating trade war and global tariffs has sent the rest of the world reeling and threatened the global financial system with collapse. China has come under particular fire, but the US has also targeted its closest allies and neighbours — Canada, Mexico and the EU — with tariffs.

Any sense of certainty has been thrown out of the window as a more inward looking US seeks to reshape the global order. So what does all this mean for the energy transition, and plans to reach net-zero? Michael Liebreich and Baroness Bryony Worthington join forces for the opening episode of Season 15 of Cleaning Up to discuss.

Leadership Circle: Cleaning Up is supported by the Leadership Circle: Actis, Alcazar Energy, Davidson Kempner, EcoPragma Capital, EDP of Portugal, Eurelectric, the Gilardini Foundation, KKR, National Grid, Octopus Energy, Quadrature Climate Foundation, SDCL and Wärtsilä. For more information on the Leadership Circle, please visit https://www.cleaningup.live.

Discover more:

Cleaning Up’s Sierra Leone Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-5QjSfy2SM
Cleaning Up’s interview with Mark Carney: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtA5ufMzKAU
Ember’s Global Electricity Review: https://ember-energy.org/latest-insights/global-electricity-review-2025/
Michael’s AI Update on Deepseek: https://mliebreich.substack.com/p/ai-data-centre-power-and-glory-an
Michael’s retreat inside an old millhouse: https://lemoulindabondance.com/

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Cheaper, Cleaner, More Reliable - Ep14: Jonathan Maxwell

Further reading:Jonathan’s official bio:https://www.sdclgroup.com/blog/our-team/jonathan-maxwell/Build Back Better: How utilities can get their own estates in order (27 July 2020)https://utilityweek.c...

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Poet of the Low-Carbon Transition - Ep13: Morgan Bazilian

Further reading:Morgan’s bio at the Colorado School of Mineshttps://econbus.mines.edu/project/bazilian-morgan/Morgan Bazilian on Wikitiahttps://wikitia.com/wiki/Morgan\_BazilianAnalytical Methods for ...

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Seeing the Future - Ep12: Ramez Naam

Further readingRamez Naam’s websitehttps://rameznaam.com/Ramez Naam’s author page on Amazonhttps://www.amazon.com/Ramez-Naam/e/B001IOH84SSmaller Cheaper Faster (2011)https://blogs.scientificamerican.c...

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From Celebrity to Action - Ep11: Jon Dee

Further reading:Jon Dee’s websitehttps://jondee.com/Planet Ark https://planetark.org/DoSomethinghttps://dosomethingnearyou.com.au/about-us/Rock Aid Armenia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock\_Aid\_Arm...

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A Green Deal Without the Yellow Vests - Ep10: Angela Francis

Further reading:“Saving the planet without making it everyone's top priority | Angela Francis | TEDxLondonWomen”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk7zXHE4kzA“We can’t afford deals that destroy our plane...

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Creating Climate Wealth - Ep9: Jigar Shah

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The Price of Resilience - Ep8: Roger Dennis

Further reading:Roger Dennis’s websitehttp://www.rogerdennis.com/Roger Dennis on LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/rogerdennis/Lessons From the West African Ebola Outbreak in Relation to New Zealand...

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A Good and Exciting Life - Ep7: Bertrand Piccard

Further reading:Bertrand Piccard’s websitehttps://bertrandpiccard.com/homeThe story of the Solar Impulse round-the-world electric flighthttps://aroundtheworld.solarimpulse.com/adventureHow to raise $1...

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