How Apple lost control of the App Store

How Apple lost control of the App Store

Everywhere you look, antitrust fights have the potential to reshape the tech industry. Nilay, David, and The Verge's Jake Kastrenakes start by digging into the latest ruling in the Apple / Epic trial, in which a furious judge rips open the App Store in a way Apple likely never saw coming. The way we pay for apps is about to change, and fast. After that, it's time for an update on the Google and Meta trials, as Google tries to preserve its search empire and Meta tries to make the case that basically every company on the web is its vicious competitor. Finally, in the lightning round, it's time for another installment of Brendan Carr is a Dummy, plus some notes on this week's Worldcoin launch and the strange new Meta AI app. Also: party speakers. Always party speakers. Further reading: A judge just blew up Apple’s control of the App Store ‘Cook chose poorly’: how Apple blew up its control over the App Store The future of the App Store depends on the difference between a ‘button’ and an ‘external link’ Apple must allow other forms of in-app purchase, rules judge in Epic v. Apple Apple exec ‘outright lied’ during Epic trial Apple confirms it will appeal the App Store order. Epic says Fortnite is coming back to iOS in the US Sundar Pichai says the DOJ’s antitrust plan could kill Google Search Google confirms it’s close to getting Gemini support on iPhones The TikTok ban is back in court — in Meta’s antitrust trial TikTok’s head of operations takes the stand. Reels isn’t Instagram’s ‘core’ experience. TikTok doesn’t compete with Meta for ‘personal social networking.’ TikTok’s legal entanglements collide. The TikTok ban makes another cameo. TikTok’s friends tab is not exactly a hit. TikTok and Reels are ‘indistinguishable.’ Are YouTube and Instagram the top competitors for TikTok? TikTok predicted Instagram would redesign its app to focus on Reels. Meta prepared for a ‘flood in traffic’ ahead of the TikTok ban. Facebook execs worried Google would buy WhatsApp and make it ‘a cross-platform iMessage.’ Facebook worried most about Google or Apple buying WhatsApp. Google had a ‘long shot’ chance of becoming competitive in social with WhatsApp. Facebook exec worried about losing the business to mobile messaging apps. ‘I was really worried that this could become the end.’ ‘This shit is getting scary.’ WhatsApp showed ‘absolutely no signs of morphing’ into a social app. Facebook floated starting from scratch on messaging. Facebook didn’t know how it would make money from WhatsApp. Facebook didn’t fear WhatsApp becoming a social competitor. Meta releases AI app to compete with ChatGPT Brendan Carr congratulates himself Brendan Carr’s FCC is an anti-consumer, rights-trampling harassment machine Brendan Carr’s Bizarro World FCC Sam Altman-backed Worldcoin cryptocurrency launches in the US Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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324: Instagram chaos, Photokina 2018, and Elon Musk gets sued

324: Instagram chaos, Photokina 2018, and Elon Musk gets sued

This week, we saw the two founders of Instagram abruptly leave, so Casey Newton comes on the show to talk about all that drama and what it might mean for Facebook’s prized possession. Then, Dan Seifert joins us to talk about all of the cameras that were announced at Photokina this year, plus all the models that were announced before the show even started. Finally, Liz Lopatto comes on for an impromptu This Week In Elon to discuss the fact that the SEC has filed a lawsuit against Mr. Musk, which happened just before we started recording the show. 1:28 - Instagram founders resign from Facebook 5:00 - 5 times Facebook messed with Instagram 20:43 - Whats App co-founder Forbes interview 22:32 - Former boss of Facebook Messenger calls Brian Acton “low class” 32:31 - Photokina 2018 recap 38:39 - Zeiss camera with built-in Adobe Lightroom 51:16 - Paul’s weekly segment “Space Egg” 56:07 - This week in Elon Musk: Live Edition™ with Liz Lopatto 1:09:52 - Oculus Quest Also, in case you missed it, Nilay talked to Google AMP’s Malte Ubl about how he’s trying to make the mobile web better. You can listen to that in the Vergecast feed. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

28 Syys 20181h 12min

Google AMP’s Malte Ubl wants to make the mobile web better

Google AMP’s Malte Ubl wants to make the mobile web better

You may not have heard of Google AMP (Accelerated Mobile Pages) but you almost certainly have used it. The Google open-source project has been making waves since it launched in 2016 in an effort to make the mobile web faster to load and smoother to navigate. This week, Nilay sat down with Malte Ubl, creator and tech lead of AMP, to talk about the controversy of bifurcating the web, forming a technical steering committee to co-lead the project, and Ubl’s vision for the future of the mobile web. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

25 Syys 201829min

iPhone XS review, Apple Watch 4 review, and Amazon's surprise hardware event

iPhone XS review, Apple Watch 4 review, and Amazon's surprise hardware event

This past week, Nilay reviewed the new iPhone XS and XS Max while Dieter reviewed the Apple Watch series 4. Paul, Dieter, and Nilay dedicate half the show to their review and whether it’s worth upgrading to the new model. Second half of the show, the crew tries to cover all of the insane amount of gadgets that Amazon announced this week, including a DVR for over-the-air channels. There’s a whole lot more in between that — like deputy editor Liz Lopatto’s “This week in Elon” segment — so listen to it all and you’ll get it all. 01:26 - Apple iPhone XS and XS Max review: smoothed out 32:10 - Apple Watch Series 4 review: the best gets better 54:44 - This week in Elon Musk with Liz Lopatto 59:00 - Paul’s weekly segment “Spin to win” 1:03:46 - The 14 biggest announcements from Amazon’s surprise hardware event 1:33:09 - Sony is launching a PlayStation Classic console this December loaded with 20 games Also, in case you missed it, Nilay along with transportation reporter Sean O’Kane talked to Ford AV CEO Sherif Marakby about self-driving cars and what Ford is doing with them. You can listen to that right in the Vergecast feed.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

21 Syys 20181h 36min

Ford Autonomous Vehicles President and CEO Sherif Marakby

Ford Autonomous Vehicles President and CEO Sherif Marakby

Big car companies like Ford have broken themselves up to enter the market of self-driving cars and compete with Silicon Valley companies like Tesla and Uber. Ford Autonomous Vehicles hopes to become the go-to supplier of autonomous driving software, and have even set the ambitious goal of shipping a self-driving car without a steering wheel or pedals in the next few years. For this week’s interview episode of The Vergecast, Nilay and Verge transportation reporter Sean O’Kane sit down with Ford Autonomous Vehicles President and CEO Sherif Marakby to discuss the past, present, and future of self-driving cars. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

18 Syys 201848min

Apple iPhone XS event, iPhone XR, and Apple Watch Series 4

Apple iPhone XS event, iPhone XR, and Apple Watch Series 4

Vergecast hosts Nilay Patel and Dieter Bohn attended the Apple event on Wednesday, and they were able to get their hands on the new iPhones and Apple Watch that were on display. After the event, they headed to our San Francisco studio to Skype with Paul Miller to record their first impressions, a summary of the event, and lay to rest some conspiracies. That’s all you really need to know before listening! 3:11 - Apple’s AirPower charger is still a no-show, one year after it was first announced 5:18 - September Keynote 2018 — Opening Film 08:33 - iPhone XS and XS Max: hands-on with Apple’s giant new phone 13:18 - The 3 best and worst features of the iPhone XS and XS Max 20:32 - iPhone XS Max overview 31:16 - Apple iPhone XR hands-on: the new default iPhone 47:15 - Paul’s weekly segment “E-skates arm race” 49:39 - Apple watch4 hands-on: bigger is better 1:04:15 - Apple adds lyric search, phone calls, and multiple timers to the HomePod 1:14:47 - What’s worse than a dongle? No dongle Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

13 Syys 20181h 17min

Anki CEO Boris Sofman

Anki CEO Boris Sofman

Anki, known for creating “robots that move you,” just finished a successful Kickstarter campaign to fund their new home robot, Vector. Anki CEO Boris Sofman sat down with Nilay for this week’s interview episode of The Vergecast to talk about the new companion robot, why gendering the robots is important, and how to avoid the uncanny valley. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

11 Syys 201839min

Apple event preview, social media hearings, and monopoly week

Apple event preview, social media hearings, and monopoly week

This week on The Vergecast, Nilay, Paul, Russell, and Dieter dedicate half the show to The Verge’s monopoly week, which dives into the future of tech monopolies. They also discuss the social media hearings that happened on Capitol Hill on Wednesday. In the second half of the show, the crew updates us on what to expect for next week’s Apple event, from the mysterious third phone to the updated AirPods rumors. There’s a whole lot in between that — like a whole section dedicated to Roombas — so listen to it all, and you’ll get it all. 01:33 - Trump says Amazon, Facebook, and Google represent a ‘very antitrust situation’ 08:08 - The 7 biggest moments from Wednesday’s social media hearings 26:13 - This week in Elon Musk with Sean O’Kane 30:39 - The 9 most plausible rumors about the new iPhones 35:28 - Pixel 3 XL found in a Lyft, had already leaked enough for driver to recognize it 37:39 - New 6.5-inch iPhone X model reportedly called the ‘iPhone XS Max’ 38:25 - Third-party USB-C to Lightning cables are reportedly happening 42:41 - Five things to expect at the Apple event next week 45:16 - Paul’s weekly segment “The decline of dirt” 50:59 - Google’s Pixel 3 event will take place on October 9th 51:53 - BMW is the latest automaker to introduce its own in-car voice assistant 52:04 - Netflix and YouTube are most throttled mobile apps by US carriers, new study says 52:20 - Razer confirms it’s working on a second-generation Razer Phon 53:17 - Samsung teases foldable smartphone launch for later this year Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

7 Syys 201857min

Tim Wu thinks it’s time to break up Facebook

Tim Wu thinks it’s time to break up Facebook

Best known for coining the phrase “net neutrality” and his book The Master Switch, Tim Wu has a new book coming out in November called The Curse of Bigness: Antitrust in the New Gilded Age. In it, he argues compellingly for a return to aggressive antitrust enforcement in the style of Teddy Roosevelt, saying that Google, Facebook, Amazon, and other huge tech companies are a threat to democracy as they get bigger and bigger. Nilay sits down with Wu for this week's interview episode of The Vergecast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

4 Syys 201845min

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