The Fathom Podcast25 Kesä 2024

19: Yair Hirschfeld - Those Who Tried: Conversations with the Peace Processors (3)

In the third episode of the Fathom series ‘Those who tried: Conversations with the Peace Processors’, Yair Hirschfeld recalls his role in the process which led to the Oslo Accords. Hirschfeld argues, based on his experience in Oslo and subsequent peace tracks, Hirschfeld argues that attempts to solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict decisively, and all in one go, do not work. A gradualist approach is what is needed, he says, arguing, ‘it’s very simple: all or nothing doesn’t work, and gradualism is very difficult but does work.’

Hirschfeld first became involved in peacemaking in February 1979 when he met Chancellor Bruno Kreisky, who asked him to become involved in Israeli-Palestinian dialogue and sent a proposal of his to the Crown Prince of Jordan and in October 1980. That process ultimately led to the Madrid Conference, and you were one of two Israeli academics who first met with PLO leaders in Oslo, Norway, which subsequently set the scene for the Oslo Accords. Hirschfeld was one of two Israeli academics (alongside the late Ron Pundak) who began unofficial and secret discussions with Palestinian officials in Oslo that led to the Declaration of Principles between Israel and the PLO. He was intimately involved in creating the Beilin-Abu Mazen agreement and worked with the parties throughout the 1990s. Since then, he has continued to work on track 2 initiatives. He recently published The Israeli–Palestinian Peace Process - A Personal Insider's Account.

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38: Howard Jacobson on literature, antiSemitism and anti-Zionism

Howard Jacobson is a British Jewish novelist and journalist who has written more than twenty books, including seventeen novels, and won the Booker Prize for fiction. This interview focuses on three of...

6 Heinä 1h 12min

37: Elliot Abrams on Epic Fury / Rising Lion against Iran

In early June 2026, Fathom editors Calev Ben-Dor and Andrew Apostolou spoke to Elliot Abrams. Abrams is Senior Fellow for Middle Eastern Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations, and has previously...

7 Kesä 32min

36: Hanin Ghaddar on Israel, Lebanon and Hezbollah

On April 23 2026, Fathom editors spoke to Lebanon expert Hanin Ghaddar, the Friedman Senior Fellow at the Washington Institute. As Israeli and Lebanese Ambassadors renewed talks under the auspices of ...

27 Huhti 28min

35: Merav Roth on grief and trauma in Israel

In late March, Fathom spoke to Merav Roth (née Lapid) about her work treating trauma in Israel. She discusses the different circles of grief and reflects on her work with survivors from October 7 and ...

14 Huhti 49min

35: Merav Roth discusses grief in Israel

14 Huhti 49min

34: Alireza Nader - The Uprising in Iran

With thousands reportedly killed by the regime, Fathom spoke to Iran expert Alireza Nader about the uprising in the country. He discussed what he terms the revolutionary movement in Iran, opposition p...

20 Tammi 36min