Cleaning Up: Leadership in an Age of Climate Change28 Touko 2025

Is The Tide Turning On Hydrogen? Ep210: Andrew Forrest

Billionaire iron magnate Andrew Forrest believes he's on the cusp of a breakthrough to decarbonise shipping and heavy industry using hydrogen.

As the Executive Chairman of the Fortescue, one of the world's largest iron ore companies, Andrew Forrest is not an easy to pigeonhole industrial billionaire. He built Fortescue into a hugely successful company, partly thanks to his belief in taking unconventional paths.

After a serious accident meant he had to take a break from work, he enrolled in a PhD in marine science. For over a decade now, has been very vocally committed to getting his company's practices aligned with a climate-safe pathway. More recently, he's also been shaking fellow CEOs and leaders out of climate complacency by highlighting the risks of lethal humidity.

This week on Cleaning Up, Bryony Worthington asks Andrew about the current climate crusade he's on, what he makes of the recent policy decisions taken by the International Maritime Organization (IMO) to agree carbon penalties for highly emitting ships, and if hydrogen can compete with renewables to be the power source of the future.

Leadership Circle:

Cleaning Up is supported by the Leadership Circle, and its founding members: Actis, Alcazar Energy, Davidson Kempner, EcoPragma Capital, EDP of Portugal, Eurelectric, the Gilardini Foundation, KKR, National Grid, Octopus Energy, Quadrature Climate Foundation, SDCL and Wärtsilä. For more information on the Leadership Circle, please visit https://www.cleaningup.live.

Discover More:

Fortescue's website: https://www.fortescue.com/en
The Sierra Leone Special: https://youtu.be/z-5QjSfy2SM
Hydrogen Insider: 'The market didn’t turn up' | Fortescue's green hydrogen boss exits the company: https://www.hydrogeninsight.com/production/the-market-didn-t-turn-up-fortescues-green-hydrogen-boss-exits-the-company
Clean Hydrogen's Missing Trillions - Audioblog 13: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNxCrQyCTpk

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The Fossil Fuel Endgame: Inside The Non-Proliferation Treaty — Ep197: Kumi Naidoo

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19 Helmi 202558min

A Clean Energy Playbook For The Global South — Ep196: Lucy Heintz

The global south needs to build out vast amounts of clean energy, and requires hundreds of billions of dollars annually to do. And yet, only a fraction of the investment going into clean energy and th...

12 Helmi 202557min

Are Big Investors Abandoning Climate Progress? — Ep195: David Blood

Just a few short years ago, sustainable finance and sustainable investing were all the rage. The Glasgow Financial Alliance For Net Zero (GFANZ) boasted financial players controlling $140 trillion. Th...

5 Helmi 20251h 3min

First Cars, Now Planes: Is The Future of Flying Electric? Ep194: Anders Forslund

Aviation accounts for around 2-3% of global emissions, and is showing no sign of decreasing. There has been a lot of focus on replacement fuels, but no real paradigm shift in the industry. Anders Fors...

29 Tammi 202556min

Audioblog 14: Generative AI — The Power and the Glory

Will AI be a disaster for the climate, or a saviour in disguise? How is AI reshaping power needs around the world? And does a lack of clean electricity spell the end of the AI dream, or a new round of...

22 Tammi 202555min

Five Years In, How Has The Bezos Earth Fund Used Its Billions? Ep192: Dr. Andrew Steer

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15 Tammi 20251h 11min

Petrostate USA vs Electrostate China — Place Your Bets | Ep191

Happy New Year and welcome to Season 14 of Cleaning Up. From the future of nuclear to growing tensions between China and the USA, we're off with a bang with a conversation between hosts Michael Liebre...

8 Tammi 20251h 1min

Lifting the Curtain on Climate Denial — Naomi Oreskes — Cleaning Up Redux

Happy New Year from all of us here at Cleaning Up. This week we’re bringing you one from our archive of almost 200 episodes. It’s a conversation Bryony Worthington had with Naomi Oreskes in October 20...

1 Tammi 202558min