Trading the Markets: June 4, 2025

Senior editor Ash Bennington joins managing editor Ed Harrison to discuss the latest developments in markets and macro in the era of coronavirus. Bennington and Harrison talk through the risks and potential upside to growth as European institutions debate bailouts in Europe, the possible ripple effect of President Trump’s call to revoke Hong Kong’s special trade status, and the plausibility of the renminbi becoming a global reserve currency. In the intro, Real Vision's Peter Cooper discusses some of the latest economic data coming out of Canada. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

30 Touko 202037min

Managing editor, Ed Harrison, joins managing editor, Roger Hirst, to discuss the latest developments in markets, macro, and coronavirus. They talk through why US equities are still not suffering even though the real economic data demonstrates an increasingly bleaker picture. In light of that, Harrison and Hirst break down what lessons to draw from this investing environment. In the intro, Real Vision’s Jack Farley looks at the continued layoffs in the airline and tech industries. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

29 Touko 202032min

Senior editor, Ash Bennington, joins managing editor, Roger Hirst, to discuss the latest developments in macro, markets, and coronavirus. Bennington and Hirst analyze what’s happening in Europe, including the recently proposed EU stimulus package, ballooning European debt, and the underlying structure of the eurozone. They also discuss recent moves in equity prices and the current landscape of currency markets. In the intro, Real Vision’s Nick Correa shares the details of both the EU’s and Japan’s proposed stimulus bills for economic relief. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

27 Touko 202040min

Managing editor Ed Harrison and senior editor Ash Bennington break down the brewing tensions between China and the United States. They comprehend the consequences of a potential "decoupling" between the two superpowers and analyze the possibility of a new Cold War. Ed and Ash also analyze the continued rise of U.S. equities and look forward to see whether the ongoing crisis will be the shortest recession in history or if there is some "post-snapback malaise" in store. In the intro, Jack Farley takes a look at what could be the first convertible bond default in the history of Chinese markets. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

26 Touko 202036min

Senior editor Ash Bennington joins Real Vision CEO and co-founder Raoul Pal to discuss the latest developments in macro and coronavirus. Bennington and Pal discuss the collapsing velocity of money and stagnant US growth, the Canadian and Australian housing markets, and what the future of commercial real estate may look like in a post-coronavirus world. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

25 Touko 202042min

Dr. Dena Grayson speaks to Pedro Da Costa about the ongoing efforts of medical professionals to save lives and stop the COVID-19 pandemic in its tracks. She evaluates the promising new drug Remdesivir and discusses her work on similar drugs such as Galidesivir and Favipiravir. She shares her thoughts on herd immunity, the possibility of a vaccine, as well as the different efforts of governments worldwide to contain the pandemic. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

24 Touko 202049min

Hugh Hendry, founder and former CIO of Eclectica Asset Management, joins Real Vision CEO Raoul Pal to analyze the state of markets at this unprecedented juncture of uncertainty and to reflect on a lifetime of macro investing. Raoul and Hugh explore how gold could perform in a debt deflation and whether central bank largesse is sufficient to help risk assets weather the storm. After a thorough investigation into the interplay between volatility and price, they contemplate the prospect of a “gilded depression” – one in which cataclysmic economic disaster is kept solvent by never-ending fiscal stimulus and where asset prices are continually re-inflated by incessant injections of central bank liquidity. Hugh can be found on Twitter at @hendry_hugh and on Instagram at hughhendryofficial.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

23 Touko 20201h 22min

Senior editor Ash Bennington sits down with Real Vision CEO and co-founder Raoul Pal to explore the latest developments in markets and macro. They dive into why debt mutualization won’t be enough to save Europe, what the elimination of GDP targeting means for China, and how Hong Kong’s limited autonomy is slipping from its grasp with China’s latest security law announcement. The pair also discuss the challenges of a solvency crisis, the rising threat of deflation, and the plummeting two year U.S. Treasury yield. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

23 Touko 202042min