This Is Actually Happening10 Kesä 2025

366: What if you infiltrated a doomsday hate militia?

A young man channels his early struggles with anger into a dangerous undercover law enforcement career, facing the shadows of a double life and ultimately discovering that only love can fight hate.

Today’s episode featured Scott Payne. You can find Scott on Instagram, LinkedIn & X

@scottpaynebigcountry

Scott has been a featured guest on Joe Rogan Experience, Armchair Expert, Business Insider, Dr.Phil, KLOVE Morning Show, and The Glenn Beck Program.

You can hear more about Scott’s story on Season 2 of the podcast White Hot Hate, https://link.mgln.ai/x1RDu4, from CBC Podcasts. White Hot Hate was produced alongside a book co-written by Scott Payne and Michelle Shephard titled Code Name: Pale Horse: How I Went Undercover to Expose America's Nazis. @cbcpodcasts

Producers: Whit Missildine, Andrew Waits, Forrest Chiras

Content/Trigger Warnings: divorce, animal death/sacrifice/ritual, murder, talk of domestic terrorism/neo-nazi/white supremacy, drug buy use, undercover sting operations, gruesome cartel murders, explicit language

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Intro Music: “Sleep Paralysis” - Scott Velasquez

Music Bed: Cylinder Four

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